PANIC IN PARIS Notre Dame ‘hammer attack’ .....

originally posted by: Discotech

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
Can we stop calling these people radicals or extremists?

They are just plain Muslims who practice Islam.

This is their faith. This is what they believe. This is their culture.

Just like all Germans are Nazi's

or All White single males are misogynistic

or All White people are racists

or All Asians are clever

See where stereotyping gets you ?

Add: All black people are thugs
Add: All Polish people are stupid
Add: .............

The attacker is a "student" in his 40s, he said he did that for Syria. He claims to be part of Daesh.

Source : ledauphine.com

a reply to: Krakatoa

Hey now you are only allowed to stereotype non protected classes!

a reply to: DrStevenBrule

All stereotyping does is show how ignorant a person truly is

a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Well now, that would indeed depend upon who you talk to, or listen to, wouldn't it?

I've heard many of those attackers, who profess Christian ideals, described in those very words. Radical. Extremist. Sometimes in the same sentence.

originally posted by: AngelOnAnyPath
a reply to: Krakatoa

How many Muslims do not commit any crimes in the name of their god?
The overwhelming majority?

That is not an answer to the question, is it? It is just a deflection to avoid the obvious answer.

And, for the record, I am not a Christian either so I have no skin in defending them.

originally posted by: Discotech
a reply to: DrStevenBrule

All stereotyping does is show how ignorant a person truly is

Agreed.

But when does pattern recognition and mounting evidence cross the line from stereotyping to factual observation?

a reply to: DrStevenBrule

Well let's just call them what they are

HUMANS

They're not Muslim, they're not Arabs, they're not "insert derogative comment"

They're humans, just like you and I

All humans are flawed, every single one of us

Let's stop throwing about labels that are as relevant as the fluff I sometimes find in my belly button and try to come up with solutions with the problems we have within our species as a whole not just related to Islam, because you can say it's the fault of Islam all you want but a billion other Muslim who don't go around trying to kill people are proof that the problem isn't the religion.

a reply to: Discotech

Perhaps Islam is not the root of the problem, I agree. However, it can be argued that is it an enabler for a human that is "broken" since it is used as a tool to program the mind.

a reply to: Krakatoa

Honduras has the highest murder rate in the world, with 7,172 homicides in 2012 – a rate of 85.5 per 100,000 people.

There are no reliable government statistics on religious affiliation in Honduras.[2] In a 2007 nationwide survey, CID-Gallup reported that: 47 percent of respondents identify themselves as Roman Catholic, 36 percent as evangelical Protestant, and 17 percent either provide no answer or consider themselves "other"

Religion in Honduras

What's the enabler here ?

Are you going to blame Islam ?

a reply to: WombRaider69

Simple really, when the only tool in your box is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail!

a reply to: Krakatoa

It just makes everything so...............simple, doesn't it.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Krakatoa

OP makes it seem like there's people screaming in the streets while it's actually fully under control.

There were people screaming in the streets and running for safety. Also panic inside the cathedral.

Don;t worry though - I am sure Macron will save France

originally posted by: WombRaider69
a reply to: xuenchen

I don't get it, why would someone attack armed officers with a hammer? Strange

Every time someone suggests a solution to this problem that depends on dealing with a rational enemy, refer them to this post.

originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
Can we stop calling these people radicals or extremists?

They are just plain Muslims who practice Islam.

This is their faith. This is what they believe. This is their culture.

As this woman points out, ISIS and Daesh aren't bad Muslims. They are actually the most devout Muslims you can find.

a reply to: Discotech

There's a name for flawed humans such as these and that it murderers...let's just call them that shall we and keep them totally differentiated from the rest of us 'humans' who do not go around causing such atrocities

originally posted by: WombRaider69
a reply to: xuenchen

I don't get it, why would someone attack armed officers with a hammer? Strange

The deranged animals that are fully brainwashed into murder for Allah do not use rational thought. When their call to Jihad happens all they know is that it is 70 virgins in heaven time, be it by hammer, moving vehicle, explosives, knives or bullets, it doesn't matter to them.

Any Muslim family is ripe for the picking, if the parents won't succumb to the radical programming their children will, and there isn't much anyone can do about it usually the radicalization happens quickly suprising the family and friends. The political war machine disguised as a religion that is Islam has a vast multitude under their control to recruit from.

Way to ruin hammer time for me.