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originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Socialism/Communism is inevitable because.........they never give up.
originally posted by: acrux
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
The wonders of CAPITALISM work well too don't they.
Mass unemployment.
The great number of homeless.
Unaffordable health call through ruthless medical institutions
Jobs shipped overseas.
Imperialistic government attacking everything that moves.
The police state.
Indoctrination of children through allegiance to the flag. etc.
Failure to care for veterans.
Corrupt financial systems.
Police stealing more than criminals.
SWAT team murdering innocent people.
Forced vaccinations.
Arrested for protesting.
Just to list a few problems.
Sound like you're living in a fairy tale if you think the wests systems of government is so wonderful.
Have a look at your own backyard before complaining about neighbours.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Do you know why socialism keeps failing, and will continue to create just dictatorships? Because that ideology you think is so perfect tries to push for a collective mind hive. But each one of us is an individual. We are all different, and when a political/economic system aims to destroy all sense of individualism, it tries to destroy human nature and our human soul.
originally posted by: daskakik
Does the ideology do that or is it the people who end up being crony-capitalist, as usual?
originally posted by: daskakik
Does everyone dress the same in cuba? I know that Venezuelans have not lost their rights to be individuals. Uniforms exist everywhere so they don't really count.
The Price of Political Opposition: Evidence from
Venezuela’s
Maisanta
†
By
Chang-Tai Hsieh, Edward Miguel, Daniel Ortega,
and Francisco Rodriguez*
In 2004, the Hugo Chávez regime in Venezuela distributed the list of several million voters who had attempted to remove him from office throughout the government bureaucracy, allegedly to identify and punish these voters. We match the list of petition signers distributed by the government to household survey respondents to measure the economic effects of being identified as a Chávez political opponent.
We find that voters who were identified as Chávez opponents experienced a 5 percent drop in earnings and a 1.3 percentage point drop in
employment rates after the voter list was released.
(JEL D72, O17)
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originally posted by: daskakik
I think your emotional baggage pushes you to be rather hyperbolic.
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
wow...so of course unless you daskakik is in command of the socialist forces people will continue to fail in socialism huh?... Is that it daskakik?...
What are you talking about?... political oponents to the socialist/communist regime in Venezuela, and in Cuba, and other true socialist/communist regimes get sent to prison.
Stop talking so much BS, you are simply ignoring facts that you don't want to accept, alongside other "socialists".
originally posted by: daskakik
I'm not a socialist. I don't want to be in command.
originally posted by: daskakik
I'm talking about people being individuals. You said that socialism is "a political/economic system aims to destroy all sense of individualism."
Censorship in Venezuela
...
Resource drains and media buyouts
Both President Chávez and President Maduro would pressure media organizations until they failed by preventing them from acquiring necessary resources. The Venezuelan government would manipulate foreign exchange rates for media organizations so that they could no longer import their resources or fine them heavily. The government would then use a front company to give the troubled organization a "generous" offer to purchase the company. Following the buyout, the front company would promise that the staff would not change but would slowly release them and change their coverage to be in favor of the Venezuelan government.[9]
Soon after Nicolas Maduro became President of Venezuela, El Universal, Globovisión and Últimas Noticias, three of some of the largest Venezuelan media organizations, were sold to owners that were sympathetic to the Venezuelan government.[10][11][12][13] Shortly after, employees of the affected media organizations began to resign, some supposedly due to censorship enforced by the new owners of the organizations.[14][15]
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Law
In December 2010, the government of Venezuela approved a law named "Social Responsibility in Radio, Television and Electronic Media" (Ley de Responsabilidad Social en Radio, Televisión y Medios Electrónicos). The law is intended to exercise control over content that could "entice felonies", "create social distress", or "question the legitimate constituted authority". The law indicates that the website's owners will be responsible for any information and contents published, and that they will have to create mechanisms that could restrict without delay the distribution of content that could go against the aforementioned restrictions. The fines for individuals who break the law will be of the 10% of the person's last year's income.[citation needed] The law was received with criticism from the opposition on the grounds that it is a violation of freedom of speech protections stipulated in the Venezuelan constitution, and that it encourages censorship and self-censorship.
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originally posted by: daskakik
It isn't BS and what haven't I accepted?
Venezuelans can still be individuals in many ways so, they have not lost that right. That is what I specifically talking about, your incessant need to exaggerate.
March 5, 2013 5:24PM EST
Venezuela: Chávez’s Authoritarian Legacy
Dramatic Concentration of Power and Open Disregard for Basic Human Rights
(New York) – Hugo Chávez’s presidency (1999-2013) was characterized by a dramatic concentration of power and open disregard for basic human rights guarantees.
After enacting a new constitution with ample human rights protections in 1999 – and surviving a short-lived coup d’état in 2002 – Chávez and his followers moved to concentrate power. They seized control of the Supreme Court and undercut the ability of journalists, human rights defenders, and other Venezuelans to exercise fundamental rights.
By his second full term in office, the concentration of power and erosion of human rights protections had given the government free rein to intimidate, censor, and prosecute Venezuelans who criticized the president or thwarted his political agenda. In recent years, the president and his followers used these powers in a wide range of prominent cases, whose damaging impact was felt by entire sectors of Venezuelan society.
Many Venezuelans continued to criticize the government. But the prospect of reprisals – in the form of arbitrary or abusive state action – forced journalists and human rights defenders to weigh the consequences of disseminating information and opinions critical of the government, and undercut the ability of judges to adjudicate politically sensitive cases.
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originally posted by: daskakik
Is it fair for me to post a military drill team and claim that people in the US have lost their individuality?
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Really?.. You are one of those claiming that "socialism" can work...
And it does, the collective precedes individualism always... Or are you completely ignorant of that fact as well?...
As for people being able to be individuals in Venezuela... Really? is that why political opponents have been imprisoned as well as human rights activists, and people can't be critical of the socialist government?... You do know that Chavez implemented a law in which no one can be critical of the socialist policies, right?...
LOL...so now I am exaggerating...Really?... Obviously you are completely ignorant or delusional of the realities people have to face in Venezuela...
A military drill team doesn't control the U.S. government... Now who is exaggerating?...
originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
LOL... It's that why 80,000 tons + of food were rotting in socialist government warehouses while people were going hungry in Venezuela?...
Why else?