Jeff Sessions, Trumps new AG and Former Campaign Advisor, lied about his Russian contacts

a reply to: SonOfThor

Funny that huh? If not for Russia's interference hacking and releasing she would have been.
Karma.lol. karma

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: SonOfThor

Funny that huh? If not for Russia's interference hacking and releasing she would have been.
Karma.lol. karma

There was no interference, so the outcome would have been the same without your ridiculous neocon fantasies.

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: TheBulk
I find these hysterics mind boggling coming from the left seeing as how it was Democrats and their media who were fawning over Castro when he died. It's left wingers and Democrats carrying around hammer and sickle flags at protests. It's left wingers and Democrats who subscribe to communism.

Confused...ignoring the bizarre conflation of Democrats and Castro..What does that have to do with the topic?

So...Democrats should be pro-Russian espionage and election interference in the USA?

Or are you saying you are?

Castro + Democrats?
So Russian interference in US elections = Good?

???

You need to improve your derail/straw-man BS.

Go ahead and explain how Russia interfered in the election. Do you consider the public knowing about Democrat corruption as interference in the election?

Not to repeat myself..

originally posted by: [post=21963449]Indigo5

You need to improve your derail/straw-man BS.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

No one is talking about this but you.

So am I to take that answer as you are ok with the ic being used against american citizens in the usa?

That's because the investigation is still developing. These things don't happen all at once you know?

Last I heard from the msm this investigation has been going on since 2015. This investigation is why some of the people advising trump during his campaign are no longer around. Manafort,Page, and Stone all left trumps campaign because of this investigation.

In addition to holding ANYONE in trumps campaign, cabinet ect accountable for ANY wrongdoing with respect to russia, I hope the scope, authority, and direction for this investigation into AN OPPOSING political party DURING AN ELECTION is released.

a reply to: Indigo5

Logical fallacy really is an art. Not everyone can do it successfully.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Krazysh0t
So am I to take that answer as you are ok with the ic being used against american citizens in the usa?

I just don't see any credibility to the angle you are pursuing.

Last I heard from the msm this investigation has been going on since 2015. This investigation is why some of the people advising trump during his campaign are no longer around. Manafort,Page, and Stone all left trumps campaign because of this investigation.

In addition to holding ANYONE in trumps campaign, cabinet ect accountable for ANY wrongdoing with respect to russia, I hope the scope, authority, and direction for this investigation into AN OPPOSING political party DURING AN ELECTION is released.

Clearly there is a lot going on here and much to discover and look at.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Oh just make it up as you go along. Ok ill bite where in the law does it state that if in the course of monitoring a known spy a United States citizen is heard they must not record his or her half of the conversation?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I just don't see any credibility to the angle you are pursuing.

So where did the info about the alleged meeting with the russian ambassador come from?

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Was that before or after they were trying to stop his confirmation?

Exactly. He didn't become a racist until he became Democrat opposition.

originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: Indigo5


Also here for those that trust no one but Fox News..


Sessions, Russian ambassador spoke twice during presidential campaign

www.foxnews.com...

Considering it was part of his job to speak to diplomats this is another non story.

originally posted by: Indigo5


Not to repeat myself..

originally posted by: [post=21963449]Indigo5

You need to improve your derail/straw-man BS.

So you got nothing?

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Indigo5

I may have missed it, so I wouldn't mind being set straight here, but what did Sessians say about the 2016 election to the Russians?

Great Question!

First response was...I don't remember

Officials said Sessions did not consider the conversations relevant to the lawmakers’ questions and did not remember in detail what he discussed with Kislyak.

www.washingtonpost.com... als-say/2017/03/01/77205eda-feac-11e6-99b4-9e613afeb09f_story.html?utm_term=.9cf6f89256d8

Then this AM it was

In a statement late on Wednesday, he said he had never discussed campaign details with any Russian officials.

www.reuters.com...

Then there is this..

“superficial comments about election-related news,” but it wasn’t the substance of the discussions, the official said.

www.cbsnews.com...

To the casual observer it would look very similar to Flynn's changing denials...In keeping with someone unsure as to what the intelligence community knows or doesn't know vs. being open and honest.

Sessions can clear this up easily by meeting with the Senate Confirmation Committee and "Clarifying" his testimony under oath. I think that would serve both him and the public well and put him on record as to your question about what he told the Russians.

a reply to: TheBulk

When did that happen?

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: IamALWAYSright

originally posted by: carewemust
Not disclosing is not the same thing as LYING. If Sessions wasn't ASKED, there's no need of him disclosing every contact he had with officials of other nations. Democrats need to focus on 2018 and 2020. The months are ticking by...

Sessions was asked clearly and directly, UNDER OATH. He LIED.

Transcript or video?

There is none. As usual "leaks" that find their way onto media known for spreading disinformation. The attack against Trump now is full frontal. Apparently his speach and the approval rate after it must have really scared dems to death. This people will stop at nothing in their attempt to overthrow the legitimate president. Until people will have enough and rise up and show them the what it means the strength of mases.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: Indigo5


Also here for those that trust no one but Fox News..


Sessions, Russian ambassador spoke twice during presidential campaign

www.foxnews.com...

Considering it was part of his job to speak to diplomats this is another non story.

How so?

Of the 20 out of 25 colleagues on the Senate Armed Services Committee that have thus far responded to queries from the press, NONE of them have met with Kislyak in the past year.

What interest does the Senate Armed Services Committee have in sharing or discussing their business with Russia?

Why wasn't the committee or ANY of his Senate Colleagues informed of his meetings if they were related to the Committee?

Why did he deny under oath that he had those conversations and meetings?

originally posted by: amfirst1
a reply to: Indigo5

President Obama and John Kerry talked to the Russian ambassador many times and I'm sure thousands of other Americans. This doesn't prove anything. So it is a crime now to speak to anyone Russian? Why not make it a crime to speak to any Chinese people. More red herring from the dying Democrat Race Bating and Warmongering party.

This issue is not the talking though in light of everything that is a concern but the issue is that Sessions lied when asked directly if he or anyone in the trump team had any contact with russian operatives during the campIgn. He said No. He lied. He did have contact. Both him and Flynn and Manafort and Lowendowsky and Roger Stone and it goes on. How much will it take before this sounds even a little questionable?

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: shooterbrody

Oh just make it up as you go along. Ok ill bite where in the law does it state that if in the course of monitoring a known spy a United States citizen is heard they must not record his or her half of the conversation?

en.wikipedia.org...

No I actually worked in that field.
There are very specific laws that regulate how our ic interacts with us citizens. All because of watergate.

Domestic wiretapping[edit] The bill allowed the monitoring of all electronic communications of "Americans communicating with foreigners who are the targets of a U.S. terrorism investigation" without a court's order or oversight, so long as it is not targeted at one particular person "reasonably believed to be" inside the country.

So they can bug the russians but the info they get from us citizens in the process is protected unless they get a SPECIFIC court order.

Foreign wiretapping[edit] The Act removed the requirement for a FISA warrant for any communication which was foreign-related, even if the communication involved a U.S. location on the receiving or sending end of communication; all foreign-foreign communications were removed from warrant requirements, as well.[10] Experts claimed that this deceptively opened the door to domestic spying, given that many domestic U.S. communications passed via non-US locations, by virtue of old telephony network configurations

They can spy on all foreign-foreign comms(including our allies) but foreign-us comms still have the same protections for us citizens.

Data monitoring[edit] In the bill, the monitoring of data related to Americans communicating with persons (U.S citizens and non-citizens) outside the United States who are the targets of a U.S. government intelligence information gathering efforts was addressed. The Protect America Act differed from the FISA in that no discussion of actions or character judgment of the target was required for application of the statute (i.e., to receive a FISA surveillance warrant, a FISC foreign agent definition was required). This data could be monitored only if intelligence officials acted in the context of intelligence information gathering

The target for this surveillance was the russian ambassador NOT sessions(unless there is a fisa warrant).

Spying outside the usa is easy. Spying within the usa on us citizens is illegal UNLESS there is a fisa warrant on them. If there was a fisa warrent issued on an opposing political party during an election cycle it is a really really big deal.

a reply to: bender151

Obama did what? Lied under oath? When did THAT happen?

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Gryphon66

Was that before or after they were trying to stop his confirmation?

Exactly. He didn't become a racist until he became Democrat opposition.

The wife of Martin Luther King would disagree with you?

a reply to: shooterbrody

Who is claiming they have a conversation recorded anyway?