Open Letter to President Trump

Dear Mr. President,
I voted for you, so don't get me wrong. I agree that immigration laws should be followed. We are a nation of laws. A country is defined by its borders. We should enforce the laws and protect our country.

But I've been thinking of the millions here illegally, who haven't committed violent crimes, or who even haven't stolen identities.

Instead of just a wall at a cost of 25 billion by some accounts, why not pepper the border with "Ellis Island" style depots? Why not protect our border and at the same time, get those that do come in, get them processed legally.

We could legitimize those entering our country and legitimize everyone already here who hasn't committed further crimes.

We could weed out those that would bring in diseases, those that are terrorist-inclined, those that don't want to become American.

We could hire tens of thousands, get educated people, have jobs programs, training centers, skilled trades for those that want to become American.


We aren't going to be able to close our borders completely and we definitely do not need a police state.

Those that politically oppose you would be stunned into silence by move.

We are not evil, bigoted biased people, and I don't think you are either.

Just a humble suggestion from someone who did vote for you.

Sincerely,

DBCowboy

Sounds nice in theory, unfortunately the people south of the border coming here bring their political ideologies with them. Those ideologies have destroyed their countries by giving government so much power, and unfortunately that's what they do when they get here. If you want the U.S. to become a big government socialist hell-hole, by all means, allow everyone to come into this country. As for The Wall costing $25 Billion, that's peanuts, we spend $75 Billion on food stamps alone, every year.

P.S. Snarl doesn't completely agree though. He wants you to kick out any people who have broken the law by coming here illegally in the first place.

Please help them GTFO!!

a reply to: DBCowboy

Not bad. I suppose you will be getting deported for making that comment.

Your great Grandparents did not do things right, you are now classified as an illegal immigrant because your great grandfather died before he finished becoming a citizen.

a reply to: DBCowboy

How many people from this country or that country do we want to let in?

I haven't looked into the numbers that we are or agree to let immigrate.

So do we need to have these large Ellis type set ups or are the numbers manageable with the system we have?

Illegal is what it's about, go home and apply for citizenship. Any other way is rewarding a criminal act. Don't want to break up family, take them with you. Besides every illegal immigrant I know from South America doesn't want to be here except for the money. They send most of it home and it's not supporting the economy here.

a reply to: DBCowboy


Every time I see one of these titles, I'm reminded off the Charlie Sheen letter and the uproar that happened here.

Good times....

There are idealistic approaches and realistic approaches.

I's never bad to be idealistic. but I do try to be realistic from time to time.

a reply to: DBCowboy


Uhhh... wow.

If he spearheaded that and made it happen (with reasonable prerequisites for citizenship), I'd certainly celebrate Trump for that.

And you're right. It would certainly confuse and silence liberals like me everywhere. We'd be like "Yeah but what about... um... huh. I guess that's just fine..."

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: DBCowboy

How many people from this country or that country do we want to let in?

I haven't looked into the numbers that we are or agree to let immigrate.

So do we need to have these large Ellis type set ups or are the numbers manageable with the system we have?

Why not deal with Mexico?

For every million of theirs that we take in, they lose x amount of square mileage of their country?

originally posted by: TruMcCarthy
Sounds nice in theory, unfortunately the people south of the border coming here bring their political ideologies with them. Those ideologies have destroyed their countries by giving government so much power, and unfortunately that's what they do when they get here. If you want the U.S. to become a big government socialist hell-hole, by all means, allow everyone to come into this country. As for The Wall costing $25 Billion, that's peanuts, we spend $75 Billion on food stamps alone, every year.

It is not the cost of the wall, as much as it's the sheer size of it 1954 miles. Just let that sink in. We are not talking about a little old piece of land here. Just do the calculations on the amount of concrete that would be needed.

Then of course you would have to consider the labor. Who is going to build it certainly not the Mexicans. LOL

And after its all done and they are using boats, Oh yeah did I mention that there is an ocean at either end of the wall.
I mean I understand immigration has to happen legally but maybe the Scrotus is over reaching a little. Maybe a little drama to capture votes of the small minded bigots and drum up the fear. Increase the right winged nationalist fervor.

1954miles......just think about it

a reply to: DBCowboy

I think this structure would work better if it was on a smaller scale, but when your dealing with thousands if not millions, this can easily become unstable with many loopholes creating corruption. I won't pretend like I know the answers though, so who knows.

There's a thin line between idealistic and realistic and I think we are all figuring it out together.

a reply to: DBCowboy

The people here illegally, are just that here illegally. They are the reason we cannot have more legal immigration than we currently do. A Canadian friend of mine was finely granted citizenship after over 12 years of legal alien status and two marriages.

Just coming over the border doesn't grant immigration of any kind. So the Ellis Island comparison is not correct.

What you are arguing for (it seems to me) is for a path for citizenship for anyone wanting to come into the country, unless they are an enemy of the state. No country has those kinds of resources.

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originally posted by: randomtangentsrme

What you are arguing for (it seems to me) is for a path for citizenship for anyone wanting to come into the country, unless they are an enemy of the state. No country has those kinds of resources.

Perhaps I'm just trying to find a compromise to an untenable situation.

originally posted by: ThoughtIsMadness

originally posted by: TruMcCarthy
Sounds nice in theory, unfortunately the people south of the border coming here bring their political ideologies with them. Those ideologies have destroyed their countries by giving government so much power, and unfortunately that's what they do when they get here. If you want the U.S. to become a big government socialist hell-hole, by all means, allow everyone to come into this country. As for The Wall costing $25 Billion, that's peanuts, we spend $75 Billion on food stamps alone, every year.

It is not the cost of the wall, as much as it's the sheer size of it 1954 miles. Just let that sink in. We are not talking about a little old piece of land here. Just do the calculations on the amount of concrete that would be needed.

We don't need that much, natural barriers and such. Even if we did, we have over 4 million miles of roadway alone. Who would build it, how about some of those "shovel ready jobs" that Obama lied about while giving $1 Trillion taxpayer dollars to his cronies? $25 Billion, not very much in the grand scheme of things, even if it is just symbolic.

a reply to: DBCowboy

You're going to be plastered for easing back from the edge into moderate territory! Compromise at this point seems to be only a preface to treason in some folks eyes.

Seeking a valid solution to a valid problem should never be frowned upon. Not a bad idea, not bad at all DB!

a reply to: DBCowboy

It seems to me the country has tried to compromise many times, without a positive solution.
What is the often quoted definition of insanity?

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: DBCowboy

You're going to be plastered for easing back from the edge into moderate territory! Compromise at this point seems to be only a preface to treason in some folks eyes.

Seeking a valid solution to a valid problem should never be frowned upon. Not a bad idea, not bad at all DB!

One should never be afraid to be wrong on occasion.
Thanks.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: DBCowboy

You're going to be plastered for easing back from the edge into moderate territory! Compromise at this point seems to be only a preface to treason in some folks eyes.

Seeking a valid solution to a valid problem should never be frowned upon. Not a bad idea, not bad at all DB!

One should never be afraid to be wrong on occasion.
Thanks.

There is no such thing as mistakes, only lessons learned.

originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
a reply to: DBCowboy

It seems to me the country has tried to compromise many times, without a positive solution.
What is the often quoted definition of insanity?

The country has ceded many times, but compromise is defined as a sacrifice on both sides.