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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Aristotelian1
To solve racism, one must stop talking about racism.
Racism has been talked to death.
Want to end racism?
End affirmative action.
End putting "race" on applications, ID's, medical records, everything.
Treat people based on their actions and behaviors and not on how much melanin they have in their skin.
There.
I've "chatted" about racism.
originally posted by: Aristotelian1
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: Aristotelian1
I would say racism is the personal discrimination of people who have different genetic features (skin color, eye color, hair color, nose size/shape, hair texture, etc. This discrimination can range anywhere from mild disdain to hatred.
Of course, there are cultural factors involved too. People tend to certain attribute perceived taboo cultural practices with certain races. That is how stereotype transpire.
Is all discrimination based on race, bad?
originally posted by: Aristotelian1
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Aristotelian1
The broadest definition of racism is belief in the theory that the human population can be divided into groups or categories known as races. The theory falls flat because the human species can only be divided into individuals.
But I don't agree with that in the slightest, good sir. Humans can be categorized in many ways. Not just as individuals.
I'm not sure what you are getting at, honestly. Are you talking about segregation? One wouldn't say "you can only classify dogs as individuals." One could say "that is a German Shepard" and not be unreasonable, categorically speaking.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: Aristotelian1
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Aristotelian1
The broadest definition of racism is belief in the theory that the human population can be divided into groups or categories known as races. The theory falls flat because the human species can only be divided into individuals.
But I don't agree with that in the slightest, good sir. Humans can be categorized in many ways. Not just as individuals.
Dividing the people into groups and specificities in the mind is one thing, but doing so with real people is another.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Aristotelian1
Da fu. . ?
Okay.
You define it for your topic.
If I agree, then I'll participate further.
You honestly think there are different definitions of racism?
originally posted by: Aristotelian1
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Aristotelian1
Da fu. . ?
Okay.
You define it for your topic.
If I agree, then I'll participate further.
You honestly think there are different definitions of racism?
"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."
www.merriam-webster.com...
I found this definition. What Les is talking about is the acknowledgment of "race." He has a different definition than this one it seems.
Racism can be "national heritage?" Racism is the same thing as "classism," almost?
originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: Aristotelian1
This might be the broadest (and vaguest) thread topic I've ever seen.
Racism is the perpetuation of preconceived opinions of others based on their genetic or national heritage.
In modernity, racism is tied to socio-economic correlations and it could just as easily be called "classism" if not for exceptions. So if it's socio-economics, why call it racism at all?
Because of history. A history of colonialism in tandem with religion-driven racism led to the class-divided correlations you see today.
But to discuss any of it, you need to know what aspect of racism you are talking about.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: Aristotelian1
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Aristotelian1
Da fu. . ?
Okay.
You define it for your topic.
If I agree, then I'll participate further.
You honestly think there are different definitions of racism?
"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race."
www.merriam-webster.com...
I found this definition. What Les is talking about is the acknowledgment of "race." He has a different definition than this one it seems.
Okay.
Fair enough.
The definition makes me feel uncomfortable. Toodles.
originally posted by: Aristotelian1
Racism can be "national heritage?" Racism is the same thing as "classism," almost?
originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: Aristotelian1
This might be the broadest (and vaguest) thread topic I've ever seen.
Racism is the perpetuation of preconceived opinions of others based on their genetic or national heritage.
In modernity, racism is tied to socio-economic correlations and it could just as easily be called "classism" if not for exceptions. So if it's socio-economics, why call it racism at all?
Because of history. A history of colonialism in tandem with religion-driven racism led to the class-divided correlations you see today.
But to discuss any of it, you need to know what aspect of racism you are talking about.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Aristotelian1
To solve racism, one must stop talking about racism.
Racism has been talked to death.
Want to end racism?
End affirmative action.
End putting "race" on applications, ID's, medical records, everything.
Treat people based on their actions and behaviors and not on how much melanin they have in their skin.
There.
I've "chatted" about racism.
Different types of human bodies and different types of dog bodies is an unreasonable comparison? Are you saying that different races did not come about due to environmental isolation/evolution? In order to categorize, one must have something to categorize. Categorization is the recognition of similarities and differences between things and the grouping of them accordingly. Categorization is abstract. What you are categorizing, and how, is not necessarily abstract and definitely not so when it comes to race. Race is not abstract, our recognition of it is.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Aristotelian1
Dog Breeds are the product of artificial selection or environmental isolation. That is hardly the case with human beings. It is unreasonable to compare the two.
I'm saying there are no races outside of the mind, and the belief that there is is racism in its purest sense. Types and categories do not exist outside of abstract thinking.