Kingdom of Lies

originally posted by: GodEmperor
a reply to: TrueBrit

Some political appointees may choose party over patriotism, this is looking more like in-fighting between the factions every day. Generalizations should be avoided, the entire intel community is not being subversive, only those who are more loyal towards a political party than the country.

.....or perhaps a particular religion over patriotism whose operatives Obama placed are now concerned their influence is about to wane(and yes this religion was amenable with working with Nazi's)

a reply to: GodEmperor

Anyone moving against a man who has outlined his respect for an almost fanatical devotion to the network of agencies and departments which make up the defence cordon of the nation, would soon find the boots of every other group within the intel community lodged in their colons. It beggars belief that anyone would have dared, especially ANY kind of right winger. I mean they are loving this guy. He talks absolute crap, does not have to back up anything he says with actual facts, and he loves the MIC and the intelligence community.

What could POSSIBLY motivate ANYONE in that field, to move against him? Money? That would not do it. It would not be worth the risk!

As there has been vague allusions that the baseless, unsubstantiated allegations against Trump may have originated within and leaked from within our own intelligence community it could be just as possible that domestic powers are seeking ways to influence, coerce, blackmail, extort and control the incoming president who was elected primarily because he couldn't be bought, beholden to, or otherwise owned by powers greater than himself. Not necessarily any foreign or Russian involvement at all.

A very public, unsubstantiated warning to the incoming president to comply... or else!

Who does Trump terrify more, Russians, foreign, or domestic adversaries????

originally posted by: ausername
As there has been vague allusions that the baseless, unsubstantiated allegations against Trump may have originated within and leaked from within our own intelligence community it could be just as possible that domestic powers are seeking ways to influence, coerce, blackmail, extort and control the incoming president who was elected primarily because he couldn't be bought, beholden to, or otherwise owned by powers greater than himself. Not necessarily any foreign or Russian involvement at all.

A very public, unsubstantiated warning to the incoming president to comply... or else!

Who does Trump terrify more, Russians, foreign, or domestic adversaries????

most definitely domestic and anyone in line with their thinking.

a reply to: rickymouse

Good point ricky! That misinformation lead to many innocent Iraqi civilians and many of our military men and women losing their lives. Not only was that information said to be true, they used falsified evidence and misrepresented photos to back it up! I think congress should pass legislation that our government nor the press can't launch accusations without it being accompanied by clear evidence and at least 2 legitimate sources.

These type of political mud-slinging accusations have affected both the liberal and conservative parties.

a reply to: GodEmperor

Here is a novel thought . Have the IC investigate this case and produce a un-redacted full report to Trump to be made available to the public .RT to run as a story as they have a good viewing base . RT would put it on YT and we (the public) could make it go viral in no time

a reply to: intrptr

That's baloney. . The ethics rule of accreditation supports a journalists right to not reveal sources. That those sources must actually exist is also part of that.
To hear you guys everybody is a liar and criminal.
Everybody.
But that's a lie in and of itself.
The world of journalists consists of many many honest people who's only desire is to bring you the news.
This constant disparagement of everything establishment is extremely childish.

a reply to: rickymouse

Sure if that's what they are doing but that's not what they're doing.

a reply to: GodEmperor

But they're not spreading rumors to discredit trump.
They're investigating him. They have only said the report is unverified. They have in no way claimed he's innocent or that the report is false. They're still looking into it.

a reply to: rickymouse

There is no such thing.
There is no NWO.

a reply to: GodEmperor

Sure have.
That whole Hillary is a criminal thing for one.

a reply to: Sillyolme

THE CIA AND THE MEDIA How Americas Most Powerful News Media Worked Hand in Glove with the Central Intelligence Agency and Why the Church Committee Covered It Up

www.carlbernstein.com...

I find your assessment ill-informed, bordering on deceit.

History serves as a good indicator of present circumstances.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: intrptr

That's baloney. . The ethics rule of accreditation supports a journalists right to not reveal sources. That those sources must actually exist is also part of that.
To hear you guys everybody is a liar and criminal.
Everybody.
But that's a lie in and of itself.
The world of journalists consists of many many honest people who's only desire is to bring you the news.
This constant disparagement of everything establishment is extremely childish.

Amazing.

Not to stray OT...but, In 2008, a man came forward to tell his tale about having sex with Obama and doing crack and coc aine supplied by Obama's dealer, in 1999. He was fully transparent in providing his name, Larry Sinclair, and all the details for the media to substantiate his claims.

The major media never reported on his allegations.

As Politico said:

Politico isn't reprinting Sinclair's allegations because they are unsubstantiated.

AND:

The Duluth, Minn., resident is the sort of figure who appears at the margins of every presidential campaign, and both Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton had their own obscure accusers with dramatic allegations. But as the old media ignores him, Sinclair has taken full advantage of the Internet, and a video in which he makes his claims that have been viewed more than 900,000 times on YouTube.

Link

His allegations were deemed "unsubstantiated," they went unreported by the major media...AND OBAMA NEVER EVEN DENIED THEM.

It was Larry's word against NO ONE'S.

And when Larry called his own press conference at the National Press Club to get his story out, he was promptly arrested at its conclusion on a bogus warrant issued by BEAU BIDEN'S AG office in Delaware. The charges stemmed from an alleged unpaid hotel bill from Delaware. Larry claimed he had never even been to Delaware.

Larry was made a political prisoner for TWO WEEKS and after he was released, all the charges were dropped.

Two months later, Joe Biden was named Obama's running mate and yesterday, the man who violated Larry's Constitutional protections and had him falsely imprisoned to bury the scandal...got the Medal of FREEDOM. Oh, the irony.

So...is that story all lies? Nope, it's a matter of public record whether it was reported by CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc...or not.

It's pretty clear the media is very selective about what they will and will not report on and it has nothing to do with ethics.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Wow that is some great info! Very poignant.

History has much to tell us. Such stark contrast between who is being reported on.

The only thing that has become crystal clear from this circus, is the utter hypocrisy the media displays.

Imagine had Hillary been elected, all scandals/rumors/allegations would have complete and total blackout. It wouldn't surprise me if it would have reached the point of censoring internet articles and arresting journalists who did not tote the status quo line.

a reply to: GodEmperor

Thanks, it's been on my mind since yesterday and I saw Joe's tears for himself and his totally precious medal of freedom.

But I thought it worked well with your topic...as Rense aptly put it, at the time of Larry's arrest:

It is now up to Obama to answer these charges. It is imperative that this be done now, without further delay. No responsible citizen wants a president who can be blackmailed and thus turned into a puppet because he is hiding secrets about bisexual activities, crack coc aine, political murder, and character assassination campaigns.

It is also up to the great news organizations, including ABC, CBS, NBC, The New York Times, and the Washington Post, to carry out their responsibility to the public. These news organizations should not play the role of kept courtesans of those in political power. As Sinclair pointed out, he has told his story and has thus done everything he can.

It is now up to the great media concerns to locate and interview the limo driver Paramjit Multani, to investigate the relevant telephone records, and above all to question Obama himself about this very serious matter. It is not up to the corporate media to sit back and sniff about whether a Sinclair has conclusively proven his own case to their satisfaction or not; the proving or disproving is the responsibility of the media, and let them make damn sure that they get it right.

Link

I'd quote a mainstream source, but they shirked their duty and failed to report the story.

ETA: And, yes, there is still an unsolved murder surrounding Larry's story.

Slander is an old tool, used in politics for a long time.

a reply to: GodEmperor

Its a world wide web of lies here a German journalist outlines how the CIA controls European media

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: GodEmperor

" We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the public believes is false "
William Casey CIA Director 1981-87

They were 90 percent there till the 4th estate jumped the shark with Hillary,unfortunately they are still probably 50-60 per cent there.

That's a false quote.

It's ironic when people use it though. Very ironic.

I like Glenn Greenwald's take on it. Democrats, like Chick Schumer, need to tread carefully.

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: GodEmperor

Its a world wide web of lies here a German journalist outlines how the CIA controls European media

Yeah, there's no right nor wrong. The journalist do what the boss "pays" them to do. They are not "paid" to do what they think is right. Someone has to profit from the news. That's why there is news. The people listen to the news because they believe its true. That's a huge advantage for the propagandists. Wherever there is an advantage, someone will always figure out a way to exploit it and turn it into a profit.

News media get most of their news directly from the government. The government feeds them the news, and if they want to continue getting those news feeds, they have to play along. Otherwise, the news organizations will have to go out and collect "all" their news themselves, which would be a huge expense. It's much easier just to accept what the gov tells them and rebroadcast that, keeping their major news source happy.

As CNN has just learnt, piss off Trump, and he'll cut off news reporter's ability to ask questions and get answers.

So, news media must play along, and be nice.