French TV Bans Smiling Down Syndrome Kids - Dear Future Moms Banned As Offensive

originally posted by: queenofswords
Your second sentence is too ridiculous to even comment on.

Thanks for proving my point.

originally posted by: queenofswords
Down's syndrome children can lead meaningful lives

Yes, they can. But they'll never grow up to be doctors or scientists or inventors... If they grow up at all, since people with Down's Syndrome often die early due to health problems.

originally posted by: queenofswordsI dare say if every person born after this point in time had your attitude, we would be extinct in short time.

Right, because encouraging people to be physically and psychologically healthy is sure going to be the downfall of civilization. How dare I suggest that a major genetic disorder which causes significant retardation and early death might possibly be a bad thing?

a reply to: infolurker

The French are backward, barbaric pussies.

a reply to: trollz

How dare I suggest that a major genetic disorder which causes significant retardation and early death might possibly be a bad thing?

Secondary diagnosis lead more often to early death than Downs itself.

The statistics regarding early death for those with Down syndrome are changing.

It is not unreasonable for them to live well into their 5th and even 6th decade which is a life expectancy for a whole lot of folks not with a disability so, that is an outdated statement.

I always like to do a little exercise with absurdly emotional topics like this one, let's do a pole swap.

Suppose this was a commercial promoting abortions for women worried about what conditions they would bring the child into, how would you feel?

If the state censored that measage as well, how would you feel?


If the state stayed the # out of it, how would you feel? I'd feel pretty damn good.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: infolurker

barbaric pussies.

Bit of an oxymoron

Killing "undesirables".

Hmm.

I did "Nazi" that one coming.

a reply to: trollz

As I said....one-layered thinking. You proved MY point.

Did you grow up to be a doctor, or a scientist, or an inventor? Or, have you even grown up yet? If you have children, I would be surprised.

Some Down's syndrome adults have jobs that bring them a sense of fulfillment, even if it is seemingly unimportant work to you.

Good for France.

I see it as forcing religions belief.

originally posted by: Annee
Good for France.

I see it as forcing religions belief.

What does religion have to do with it?

I'm not religious, yet I find this act to suppress an alternative viewpoint deplorable.

a reply to: queenofswords

Yeah the religion thing confused me as well.
Perhaps the member will explain in more than one cryptic line.

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: trollz
Did you grow up to be a doctor, or a scientist, or an inventor? Or, have you even grown up yet? If you have children, I would be surprised.

As a matter of fact, I'm in the process of obtaining a B.S. in Cybersecurity. No I don't have children because I'm in my 20's and I'm responsible enough not to get a woman pregnant without being married or having a steady career.

What about the midgets ?

No one cares about the midgets !

And another thing what if there was a downs emoji ?

Is it offensive or been more welcoming ?

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: trollz
Did you grow up to be a doctor, or a scientist, or an inventor? Or, have you even grown up yet? If you have children, I would be surprised.

As a matter of fact, I'm in the process of obtaining a B.S. in Cybersecurity. No I don't have children because I'm in my 20's and I'm responsible enough not to get a woman pregnant without being married or having a steady career.

That's admirable and the world needs more responsible young people, in my opinion.

You're young and I have no idea where in the world you live but, I hope someday your thoughts can change to become more tolerant and compassionate and understanding.

Once someone is here on this earth, I am of the belief that we are to do whatever we can to strive for them to have the same chances as everyone else, the same risks and the same rewards.

that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Welcome to socialism . . .

We care not about the opinions and feelings of those whom disagree with us, but you better not offend or appear to offend those whom agree with us.

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: trollz
Did you grow up to be a doctor, or a scientist, or an inventor? Or, have you even grown up yet? If you have children, I would be surprised.

As a matter of fact, I'm in the process of obtaining a B.S. in Cybersecurity. No I don't have children because I'm in my 20's and I'm responsible enough not to get a woman pregnant without being married or having a steady career.

You will change your attitude somewhat in time as you grow and develop. Your pre-frontal cortex has not fully developed most likely since you are probably in your late teens or early twenties (an assumption since you're still working on your Bachelor's).

Life's experiences and interactions with others who have mental and physical challenges help us develop beyond just the physical and present opportunities to grow beyond a world of fantastical ideas. In other words, reality will hit you when you least expect it and open your heart and mind.

a reply to: infolurker

what a surprise, another gun rights restricted European socialist utopia continues to ban free speech, good speech imo for that matter.

Europeans, as long as you stay castrated, the state will continue to punch you in the mouth and say shutup too!

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: queenofswords

Yeah the religion thing confused me as well.
Perhaps the member will explain in more than one cryptic line.

I consider it intentional ignorance to play dumb to the fact the majority of anti-abortionism is religious based.

Am i the only one that saw this from the OP?

"The law stipulates that only advertising messages or ‘messages of general interest’ be shown during commercial breaks" they said in a statement on its website. "The Council determined that this film does not constitute a ‘message of general interest'" and will likely "disturb women who have had recourse to a medical termination of pregnancy and thus is inappropriate for airing during commercial breaks."

The law... Just like the FCC decides what's okay and what isn't.

But since it's France and quite obvious to all you non emotional global travellers you know what's best...(sarcasm)

Also F-me giggling smiling retards that can hug and say I love you i didn't know they could do that?!?!?!

As to bashing trollz for using thoughtful logic instead of ah look how cute that legless puppy is. BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Also anybody getting pregnant with a defective child and keeping it enjoy the bonus financial costs as well as emotional drainage time consumption and all that fun fun stuff.

a reply to: SPHARAOH

The third reich just called, Hitler wants you and trollz back.

But seriously I respect you have an opinion and you are entitled to share it on ATS, even if I do not agree with it.

My opinion is, if we removed all those humans on this earth devoid of empathy, understanding, tenderness, kindness, tolerance, consideration, decency and love we would be living in a much better world.

If someone terminates an unborn child I respect their right to that decision even if I do not always agree with it. I also respect France's decision to not air this commercial even though I do not agree with it.
While the commercial could upset people who decided to terminate a pregnancy based on medical advice that is not alway 100% infallible it could also offer hope and reassurance to other people who do have a child with a disability.

a reply to: TNMockingbird

I SERIOUSLY wonder when the term "Black Friday" will be protested, condemned and totally banned...for a myriad of assinine reasons!

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: queenofswords

Yeah the religion thing confused me as well.
Perhaps the member will explain in more than one cryptic line.

Are you saying the film in the OP was made by a religious group?
What is your on-topic point?