Email to Trey Gowdy - Martial Law, Gun Seizure

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Amagnon
a reply to: DJW001

The title was selected to accurately represent the topic - if it is 'click bait' as you put it, then good - because people need to understand that the refugee influx is going to be the final straw. Playtime is over.

No it does not. Did you actually send Gowdy this email? Or is it just imaginary, ie, a hoax?

I sent him that email.

a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Gotcha, Sorry if I came across as snarky, was not my intent.

Yeah, I agree big Cities would be a nightmare. But I think it would turn out real bad for the people attempting to enforce such a situation. I also agree that they could stop ammunition sales, but that wouldn't do much to quell the violence and lawlessness that would ensue. I hope they never attempt such a scenario, as it will turn out bad for all parties involved!

originally posted by: EternalShadow
Certainly unvetted refugees pose a HUGE security threat, and a more than justified concern amongst our citizenry. Martial Law? Gun confiscation? Not likely.

People have a tendency to do what they're told by authority figures like police and military - I do wonder who is going to start shooting and resisting when a half a dozen armed men knock on their door.

The govt doesn't have to convince everyone - they just need a credible justification - then the police, national guard and military men will do exactly what they are programmed to do - follow orders.

a reply to: burgerbuddy

Was Chartreuse Green used as a scare color for the "Ebola" Psy-Ops?

originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Gotcha, Sorry if I came across as snarky, was not my intent.

Yeah, I agree big Cities would be a nightmare. But I think it would turn out real bad for the people attempting to enforce such a situation. I also agree that they could stop ammunition sales, but that wouldn't do much to quell the violence and lawlessness that would ensue. I hope they never attempt such a scenario, as it will turn out bad for all parties involved!

No worries. It would for sure be a nightmare for all involved. I just wonder, if they are trying to implement this "NWO". How will they go about it? I guess Europe is the current testing ground since their populations would be much easier to control at present state. I don't know.

originally posted by: Amagnon

originally posted by: EternalShadow
Certainly unvetted refugees pose a HUGE security threat, and a more than justified concern amongst our citizenry. Martial Law? Gun confiscation? Not likely.

People have a tendency to do what they're told by authority figures like police and military - I do wonder who is going to start shooting and resisting when a half a dozen armed men knock on their door.

You must be joking. The executive orders already in place dictate control of nearly every aspect of infrastructure. Watch what happens when the power goes out, the internet goes dark, the food supply goes belly up, the plumbing doesn't work, ...hell, when not only soldiers are knocking on your door but instead your neighbors are trying to break in!

A few guys geared up with guns will be in for some serious sh#.

What a bleek outlook you have of our military.

Here's why it won't fly: Our military will be fighting on several fronts. Not only our ongoing conflicts overseas but on the home front as well; fighting the same folks plus their own country men!!

You honestly believe they would just fall inline and attack their own?

Again, ain't gunna happen.

a reply to: EternalShadow

Would probably take something drastic, like foreign/UN troops. Could that happen? There is a conspiracy theory based just on that. Whether it is true or feasible I am not sure. I haven't looked into that one as much.

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
a reply to: EternalShadow

Would probably take something drastic, like foreign/UN troops. Could that happen? There is a conspiracy theory based just on that. Whether it is true or feasible I am not sure. I haven't looked into that one as much.

Yeah there's a supposed contingency plan in that regard, but either way, is it better off to be unarmed???

I would say um, no...foreign troops administered by your government to take you down. Doesn't sound like freedom to me...Lol

originally posted by: EternalShadow

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
a reply to: EternalShadow

Would probably take something drastic, like foreign/UN troops. Could that happen? There is a conspiracy theory based just on that. Whether it is true or feasible I am not sure. I haven't looked into that one as much.

Yeah there's a supposed contingency plan in that regard, but either way, is it better off to be unarmed???

I would say um, no...foreign troops administered by your government to take you down. Doesn't sound like freedom to me...Lol

Unarmed? No way. I am totally against most gun control and especially any type of confiscation. An armed citizenry (law abiding) is a good thing.

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: EternalShadow

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker
a reply to: EternalShadow

Would probably take something drastic, like foreign/UN troops. Could that happen? There is a conspiracy theory based just on that. Whether it is true or feasible I am not sure. I haven't looked into that one as much.

Yeah there's a supposed contingency plan in that regard, but either way, is it better off to be unarmed???

I would say um, no...foreign troops administered by your government to take you down. Doesn't sound like freedom to me...Lol

Unarmed? No way. I am totally against most gun control and especially any type of confiscation. An armed citizenry (law abiding) is a good thing.

Oh I'm aware of your stance.

I'm just stoking the paranoid meter for those who haven't thought it through.

originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: Amagnon

Country wide martial law and firearm confiscation is an impossible feat to implement. Only paranoid uninformed fools believe that crap.

No one will be taking our firearms and martial law is a joke. It's simply not enforceable.

I enjoy doom porn, but this scenario simply won't play out.

I used to believe that because I doubted few americans in the military or police would go along with it.
However, the UN is looking to be the likely source for manpower and China would be a willing participant since the debt we owe them in unpayable unless we outright give up assets within the United States.

The UN also the R2P program (responsibility to protect) that was utilized to overthrow Kaddafi. Why could they not use the same excuse in the US? Gun confiscation is not only likely in my book but a certain eventuality should certain parties control our government.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

UN troops would be decimated in short term. The sheer number of us hunters (firearms and archery) will be the largest standing force any occupation has ever seen.

Not trying to be a Billy bad ass, just realistic. Gun confiscation and/or martial law is is a fantasy. A fantasy that will never materialize. The US is far to vast for anything of the sort. Small Cities, sure. Nation wide, an impossible and deadly task.

Anonymous speculation about martial law.

That's something that was interesting to me the first 100 times or so I heard about it.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals

originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: Amagnon

Country wide martial law and firearm confiscation is an impossible feat to implement. Only paranoid uninformed fools believe that crap.

No one will be taking our firearms and martial law is a joke. It's simply not enforceable.

I enjoy doom porn, but this scenario simply won't play out.

I used to believe that because I doubted few americans in the military or police would go along with it.
However, the UN is looking to be the likely source for manpower and China would be a willing participant since the debt we owe them in unpayable unless we outright give up assets within the United States.

The UN also the R2P program (responsibility to protect) that was utilized to overthrow Kaddafi. Why could they not use the same excuse in the US? Gun confiscation is not only likely in my book but a certain eventuality should certain parties control our government.

The UN can not get manpower to fill out calls a few thousand troops and China barely has the manpower to secure its borders and nobody has the logical tail to support a large Chinese force.

As for the OP, Refugees spend a year being vetted by the UN and other agency's where only 1% are then passed on to be the host nations agencies. For the US if everything is perfect you spend at least a year being interviewed and re interviewed and investigated by the National Counter-terrorism Center, FBI, DHS and State Department. You are medically checked, your finger prints and bio-metrics taken. At best you can get into the US in two years if everything is perfect.

And of those refugees 51% are children under 14, 21.2% are women and 23.9% are men between 15 and 50. Not exactly a threatening group.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

China would be a willing participant since the debt we owe them in unpayable

What makes you think our debt to China is unpayable? It easily is.

originally posted by: Amagnon

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: Amagnon
a reply to: DJW001

The title was selected to accurately represent the topic - if it is 'click bait' as you put it, then good - because people need to understand that the refugee influx is going to be the final straw. Playtime is over.

No it does not. Did you actually send Gowdy this email? Or is it just imaginary, ie, a hoax?

I sent him that email.

Then why didn't you say so? You should have titled the thread: "The Email I sent to Gowdy."

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Amagnon
a reply to: DJW001

The title was selected to accurately represent the topic - if it is 'click bait' as you put it, then good - because people need to understand that the refugee influx is going to be the final straw. Playtime is over.

No its not. This whole nation is made up of immigrants.

I get the fear of terror thing too. Its been part of your programming, probably your whole life.

Do you walk around, afraid of lightning striking you?

This thing is so much different than even any other mass immigration situation in the last 150 years. Syrians are only part of it.

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Gotcha, Sorry if I came across as snarky, was not my intent.

Yeah, I agree big Cities would be a nightmare. But I think it would turn out real bad for the people attempting to enforce such a situation. I also agree that they could stop ammunition sales, but that wouldn't do much to quell the violence and lawlessness that would ensue. I hope they never attempt such a scenario, as it will turn out bad for all parties involved!

No worries.

It would for sure be a nightmare for all involved. I just wonder, if they are trying to implement this "NWO". How will they go about it? I guess Europe is the current testing ground since their populations would be much easier to control at present state. I don't know.

Yes a well armed man and knowing his neighbors are well armed, not to mentions the constitutional right idea is a whole different bird.

a reply to: Amagnon

Refugee's from Syria cannot be vetted any more than they already are. The US process goes through something like 14 different agencies, and takes years. People who come in are tested against a database of known terrorists. We are the most stringent nation on the planet among those who are actually taking refugees. There is no "extreme vetting" we can do, because we're already doing what would be considered extreme vetting, and there is no additional information we can take in that we are not already taking in.

If we're going to take refugee's, there's nothing more that can be done. So what you're arguing for is to not take in any refugees and instead make it Europes problem. To which I'll respond. It's the US that screwed up Syria, it's our responsibility to help them flee. If we were fleeing the US, we would expect nothing less for ourselves.

originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Your point? Us firearm owners aren't the reason martial law isn't enforceable. The sheer logistics of it is laughable.

They couldn't quell violence in small Cities, what makes ya think they could control and entire Country? Firearms or not, martial law is a fantasy!

But if marital law is declared, there will be a threat of being shot dead by authorities if people are seen out at whatever times are deemed off limits, and that alone will put fear into people not to be out as vigilantes.