Journalist Bob Tuskin arrested for "The Building 7 Challenge"

a reply to: facedye

dude you are boring me,

It was kinda fun humouring you for a while, like watching a ape try to drive a car but honestly its becoming tiresome.

My opinion: I cannot really make up my mind on what happened to this guy that led to him getting into a bit of bother with the police based on a 100 second video.

Your opinion: I am wrong for a reason you have yet to really explain.

So how about we agree to disagree and part ways because I have got much, much better things to be doing now.

Thank you for the entertainment over the last few hours now am off to do something more constructive with my time.

a reply to: DelMarvel

That's my take, he was polite about it and stopped with "wake up!"

Things are even worse when the message really has nothing to do with it. That would mean anybody could pick any 'offense' they like to get people arrested with. You really wanna live in that world and if you do: why so?

At 1:46 of the 9 minute version of this video he refers to a conflict with a woman who didn't want her nephew on the videotape. But the portion of the video documenting this conflict has been edited out.

At 2:36 he tells a man who apparently was involved in the previous conflict that: "We are allowed to film with no expectation of privacy on behalf of those who we film in this public place."

And once again it is obvious that not all of his interaction with these people is included in this video.

He was being a jackass. The only question is to what degree as he has edited the tape.

originally posted by: facedye

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: Chadwickus

Agreed, as I have been saying (something which mr. Truther seems to be struggling with) this is only a 100 second snap shot (edited) of what actually happened, to start ranting about how the police are trying to shut down 9/11 truth based on this alone is ridiculous.

Yet their confirmation bias is so strong they will not even accept that its possible that there might be a bit more to this story than what is shown in the video.

For example the officers say that they have been called because these guys were harassing other people to which the guy being arrested says he has also been harassed so based on this one fact alone we can deduce there is more to this video than we are shown.

Mr. Truther?

So let's break down the things that matter to you in this thread:

1. you're happy he got arrested for "potentially threatening the police with 'murder or something,' or a bomb."

2. you're upset that your posts are not getting starred.

3. your frustration about nobody agreeing with you here only makes you think that you must be right, while everyone must be wrong.

4. you find any reason in the longer version of the video to support your moot point. you think him yelling "wake up" is enough of a reason for him to be arrested.

it's very clear to me that the bias you're stating so many people have in this thread is shared by you as well.

it's also clear to me that your willingness to call someone a "truther" fuels your favoritism of the cops vs. the individual speaking his mind.

he was following the order he was given. your sentiments on him getting arrested despite this only reveal your true motivations.

nobody with common American sense here agrees with you. if you believe in the official story, you're a conspiracy theorist yourself. stop calling people names like we're in grade school and start being responsible for the positions you're positing.

A-#ing men.......

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

"entertainment"

we're talking about someone being detained over the demise of WTC 7 and you consider it entertainment?

me and several others here have clearly pointed out how you're in the wrong in this situation.

you've contradicted yourself and changed the veracity of your position several times.

got something better to do? great, do it. you can leave this to the members that actually care about this situation enough to not play around with "what ifs."

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: DelMarvel

That's my take, he was polite about it and stopped with "wake up!"

It's at 2:52 of the nine minute video. Everybody can judge for themselves.

The body language and verbal language he was using was extremely confrontational.

I don't know where you're from but I've seen people get their a** kicked for less than that.

And once again, the video has been edited so we don't even know everything that happened.

a reply to: DelMarvel

Ass kicked? Maybe

Arested? Nope

By the way....I think all OSers are obnoxious pricks. Can we round them up now?

a reply to: DelMarvel

We know, 'cause the whole event started around the 2min mark. So you're saying it wasn't a human reaction to trollery but rather an intentional attack. Agreed to disagree then.

I'm from Niemöller land btw. And I reckon we have a different perspective on the growing police state in general, as on that particular arrest. Now guess why that could be the case, historically spoken.

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: DelMarvel

We know, 'cause the whole event started around the 2min mark.

No, we don't know everything that happened.

The video (talking about the 9 minute video) picks up the incident at 1:45 AFTER it has obviously started as Tuskin is referring to a conflict while the man and a woman walk back towards him. Tuskin disparagingly tells the man "you're not even watching the footage" as the man walks away. Then the video cuts away.

If Tuskin was actually "assaulted" prior to this by a woman who didn't want her nephew in a conspiracy video why is that part edited out?

At 2:35 we see another scene with the same man and a different woman where Tuskin is claiming he has the right to videotape whoever he wants without permission. At 2:52 there is another edit and we don't know what happened between that and the final scene where Tuskin chases after the man confrontationally. Clearly the only reason the situation didn't escalate further is because the man walked away.

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
So you're saying it wasn't a human reaction to trollery but rather an intentional attack. Agreed to disagree then.

And for that matter the entire stunt was "trollery" by Tuskin.

What does asking drunk, oblivious football fans what they think of a 15 second video prove anyway?

If someone disagrees, why not say "thanks for your opinion" and wait for the next guy? Why be confrontational?

And why not say "I won't use any footage of anyone who doesn't want to be a part of this. Or footage of a minor whose parents don't approve." Why insist you have the right to videotape anyone you want without their permission? Of course you're going to provoke a scene.

a reply to: DelMarvel

Why be confrontational?

He wasn't, just look at the other part where he left a minor alone for stating that fires weakened the structure.

Yes I think it's human to be embarrassed by harassment, the whole event is clear as day for me. Is there a specific reason why you'd rather imply malicious intent than cockiness on that young blokes behalf?

Call me biased if ya like, but give me the 'full story' you guys fantasise about and I might reconsider my stance. Given the trackrecord of all Patrit Acts (mind the pun) recently I think that's highly unlikely...

Not sure why I have been drawn to WWII books lately but I just read 5 chimneys and the Loyal to a Degree series. 5 Chimneys is a very scary book about a very successful Doctor that built a thriving surgical hospital in Germany and over night he was in a concentration camp, children gassed and murdered and separated from his wife. His wife survived in the end but her husband was murdered, children murdered and her parents murdered. She survived but came out very alone.

I know this derails the thread a bit. I also know that we are no where near that in America but it seems to be a creeping trend with crazy over reach like what the OP has shown.

Truth, justice and morality are becoming a crime in this country.

a reply to: Mandroid7

Just as scary/disappointing is that his comment has 4 stars.

4 other people on ATS (which is 4 too many) agree with his comment...

Scary times.

originally posted by: samkent
He wasn't arrested for the challenge.
He was being stupid.
Now he has a record.
Good luck on that new job offer.

Someone already replied to you regarding this but exactly. Being stupid is not a crime nor should he be arrested before he had time to move on. He was only just told that he is trespassing, (supposedly) then they must allow him to move on. To arrest him before he moves on is unlawful and wrong of the police.

It is obvious that majority of police officers are absolute cretins and dummies in all circumstances. I hope this man they arrested has lots of money to take these absolute scumbags to court because that is what they are police officers like this, scumbags.

Considering the law is literally bullsh*t in place for ignorant people to think it serves a purpose shows how bent this world is. No crime has ever received the correct arrest and sentence it should have. Meanwhile the powers that be are hidden from being arrested, within England itself. Our queen cannot be arrested, as she is chief prosecutor. If that does not show you how bent the world is, then not sure what is.

Anyone got proof he was actually arrested and charged yet?

No? Didn't think so.

More lies from so called truthers.

a reply to: Chadwickus

Yeah, right.

They never told him he was arrested and they never took him away.
It's just those lame truthers spreading lies... *yawn*

Yeah, right.

Good thing is, we have you self-proclaimed heroes of integrity and truth in media on bord. Alas, god bless!

Yeah, right.

And I just reinvented a new old satire format with an equally lousy chorus, how awesome is that?

Yeah, right!

a reply to: PublicOpinion

So how come his arrest isn't listed on the University of Florida crime log?

Yeah she said you're under arrest, so where's the documentation of it?

Almost certainly they walked him to the road, uncuffed him and he went on his merry way.

But as usual, since he's a stupid truther, he's trying to make this into something it's not, saying he got arrested for showing a wtc7 building...that is utter BS, and you're a complete fool if you believe that.

It's not being rude or condescending, it is merely the fact.

a reply to: Chadwickus

dude, he was put into handcuffs.

when someone gets escorted off of private property for a non violent/criminal offense, are they typically put into handcuffs first?

would he have to have a record of his arrest for this to be unlawful?

the sweeping generalizations you're making are.. absurd.

a reply to: facedye

Sweeping generalisations?

What sweeping generalisations?

The University of Florida has a crime log, he's not on it.

If you can show that he is, there go for it.