Clinton team avoided ER to conceal details of her medical treatment

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Ok. Your belief is not enough to sway my opinion.

Her business is her business and I would rather focus on policy ideas.

a reply to: introvert

We're in the same situation, except McCain was on the other side of the medias scrutiny

originally posted by: AnonyMason
a reply to: introvert

It's important to know that a potential candidate for the most powerful seat in the US is healthy enough to handle the burdens of that office. It's very shady on both sides to not release medical records. All that means is that they have things to hide. Hillary more so, than TinyHands.

If she can't handle the stresses of finishing her own campaign, how can she manage the unimaginable emotional and mental strain of running the United States? Rhetorical. She can't. And she's dodging visits to the place where sane people go when they are sick? Like an emergency room...

No. Something much worse is happening with Hillary. And not releasing any info about whats going on to the public means she's hiding something. Shocker! Clinton lying about something? Never.

Trump is showing signs of dementia like when he went crazy on the fly.

The way he sounds when he goes off like that... I've heard it before, from someone close to me who had Alzheimer.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: AnonyMason

If she can't handle the stresses of finishing her own campaign, how can she manage the unimaginable emotional and mental strain of running the United States?

She's got pneumonia. How do you extrapolate that she cannot finish her campaign?

Because she lied about it. That's not a medical issue, it's an issue of character.

So her character will force her to halt her campaign and not her health?

I never suggested such and don't expect her to. In fact, I don't understand your point. The issue that is troubling is more that she lied about it than that she has it. If she had come out and said, "The doc says I have pneumonia and I have to take it easy for a few days." people could, and I believe would, accept that. But that's not what she did.

I also find it quite laughable that people who said, "She isn't sick" a few days ago are now saying, "What business is it of yours?" The fact is that those of us who said she was sick were correct, so now the narrative changes to, "It's not your business." This is not going away any time soon. I don't happen to believe she has a terminal illness or anything like that, but I am suggesting she's in a lot worse health than she lets on.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Ok. Your belief is not enough to sway my opinion.

Her business is her business and I would rather focus on policy ideas.

You so right who cares if she dies 2 years into office and someone we never heard of takes over.

Also Hillary is an amazing person even if she is deathly ill what difference does it make anyway?

Yeah, you don't build a private hospital for a cold.

I am going to stop making fun of her, she's on the way out imo.

I feel bad for her now.

Jesus, she looks like she died on the way to the van.





#savethewetnoodles

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: MotherMayEye

No, but voters like to be informed and some have standards regarding the health of the POTUS

That refers to the shallowness I was talking about, especially when those medical "conditions" are rooted in conspiracy.

Also...great...you think I am shallow. IDGAF.

It's my vote. It's meaningful to me even if you think my metrics are shallow. I think yours are shallow if you cannot give up the same amount of skepticism to Hillary that you would give to any other candidate.

If Trump passed out, was dragged to a van while being surrounded and hidden from cameras, and then his handlers said he was overheated and later said he had pneumonia, all along, I believe you would scoff at it and insist that no one expect you to believe what his camp was reporting.

And I would feel that way, too.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: introvert

My health is my business. Clinton's health is her business.

i don't want someone who is preoccupied with their health problems making declensions for me and mine.

Should we extend that to congress? How about the state congress? Perhaps even those that vote for those that will represent us?

How can we expect them to vote properly if they have health problems?

originally posted by: introvert

If he did that, it would not be a factor for me.

Why is it a factor for you?

# happens. People get sick.

It's a factor for me because if she isn't healthy enough to sit in office for at least 4 years, then she shouldn't get the job. Period.

They are citizens as well. Do they give-up their constitutional rights when they run for office?

Yes, to a certain degree they do. Secrecy in government is a major problem. If a candidate for President can't tell the public whats wrong with her when she is very obviously ill, thats a major problem.

The fact that you are so willing to ignore outright lies from her is telling for me. And before you respond with something about Trump, I know, he's a liar too. He's spit hundreds of lies and made up statistics, and things that sound good but aren't true. I have no hesitation in telling you right here that i will vote for neither of them. So you can tone down the "his ratings are lower so why does it matter" stuff.

It matters.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Ok. Your belief is not enough to sway my opinion.

Her business is her business and I would rather focus on policy ideas.

Fabulous. But don't call me "shallow" for not buying into 'ideas,' and looking at records, histories, and facts, as well.

originally posted by: avgguy
a reply to: introvert

We're in the same situation, except McCain was on the other side of the medias scrutiny

Not mine.

I cannot be held accountable for someone else's actions.

By the way, are you comparing to what is happening now to what they did to McCain?

If so, why are you ok with one doing it and not the other?

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Substracto
She goes to the ER and the medical reports come public, and they tell what most of us suspect, its more than pnemonia, its something deathly serious..

maybe she didn't go to the ER, because the republican congress would immediately subpoena all of the doctors and hospital staff to come testify about how many poops Hillary took.

Her medical records can not be released without her permission. I don't think even Congress could compel someone to release their medical records. She didn't go to the ER because even with an assurance of privacy and not giving permission to any medical staff to release her records, a diagnosis would be in her record. Patient confidentiality would prevent it from being released but any doctor that treated her would know what the diagnosis is. Sure, someone could leak it and lose their job. I doubt that would happen but it is a possibility.

originally posted by: introvert
I can't blame her.

I am a very private person and if I was in a position in which my personal medical info could be leaked by loose-lipped medical staff and an eager press, I would try to keep it as private as possible.

Some things are private and I have never understood why we press political candidates to release medical records.

Seems a bit nosey to me.

Don't enter POTUS level public service if you want privacy. Period.

The idea we shouldn't know anything more about our candidates than what the constitution requires has got to be one of the more foolish arguments ever presented on ATS.

Then we'd know next to nothing about any candidate, charged with leading the most powerful country in the world. The constitution requires zero information made public on health, financials, investments, criminal convictions, policy, background, or really anything beyond being a US citizen age 35 or older.

You can't even hire a few plumbers for your own plumbing business with such little information.

a reply to: Hazardous1408



Ummm...did you actually write any of that with a straight face...?

A misguided soul...?

The reason people are being burned alive in cages as you defend this ray of sunshine...is directly due to her actions...Her maniacal laughter as she cackles about another human being raped to death with a machete...is Chancellor Palpatine all the way...

Don't push your faux enlightenment on me Skippy...That harpy your defending is the originator of that black mojo your chirping about...It pours from her like a solarized rain...

None so blind...




YouSir

a reply to: schuyler

I never suggested such and don't expect her to. In fact, I don't understand your point. The issue that is troubling is more that she lied about it than that she has it. If she had come out and said, "The doc says I have pneumonia and I have to take it easy for a few days." people could, and I believe would, accept that. But that's not what she did.

I'm sorry she did not do as you would have liked. I would have liked it even more if she would have come out and said "I'm sick. It has nothing to do with your stupid conspiracies. Mind your own business!".

I also find it quite laughable that people who said, "She isn't sick" a few days ago are now saying, "What business is it of yours?" The fact is that those of us who said she was sick were correct, so now the narrative changes to, "It's not your business." This is not going away any time soon. I don't happen to believe she has a terminal illness or anything like that, but I am suggesting she's in a lot worse health than she lets on.

Getting pneumonia is not the same as the conspiracies that are making the rounds.

Bad timing. Yes. Comparable to the conspiracies? No.

Don't confuse the two.

originally posted by: Darkmadness

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Ok. Your belief is not enough to sway my opinion.

Her business is her business and I would rather focus on policy ideas.

You so right who cares if she dies 2 years into office and someone we never heard of takes over.

Also Hillary is an amazing person even if she is deathly ill what difference does it make anyway?

Or even worse, they drag her over the finish line and she bows out before they can inaugurate her and the "rules" people decide the DNC gets to simply select someone to replace her and we end up with the first POTUS NO ONE voted on.

originally posted by: introvert

# happens. People get sick.

Citizens don't need or want to make sympathy votes, Americans
want a strong leader, and deserve one.

Sick presidents only cost American's more money.

Voter's have a right to examine the candidates and
evaluate them in light of their word to the people.

a reply to: introvert

Yes because one is sick and mentally impaired. The other had his arms broken in a war. One affects decision making, the other doesn't. Apples and oranges.

a reply to: introvert

Do you know why there are conspiracies?

Because of the lies.

schuyler is entirely correct. It would be much, much harder for the conspiracies to continue had she and her campaign been honest about all this from the start. Instead we get allergies ... no heat exhaustion ... no it was pneumonia we knew about when we were busy telling you all it was heat exhaustion ...

And now we find out they ditched the ER which should have been the first stop according to accepted protocol and they were running around ditching the police escort to do it like some Hollywood thriller?

Yeah, that sort of thing fuels conspiracies.

Can't you tell?