Diversity is not strength

It's read line a line out of George Orwell's book 1984

War is peace
Freedom is Slavery
Diversity (ignornance) is strength

Oh George, you were only off by one word.


The subject of this debate is whether diversity is a strength for the United States. As you know, from President Obama on down, all you ever hear is people telling you that racial diversity is a strength. Not just a strength, but maybe even our country’s greatest strength.

They’re wrong. Racial diversity is not a strength. It is a grinding, permanent source of conflict and tension, not just in the United States but everywhere in the world where there is racial diversity.

Those are the words written in this great debate: www.amren.com...

Our politics, our media, our entertainment are full of nothing but race tensions along with Islam, because that's not a race even though it's being classified as such.

In America, as demonstrated today by Colin Kaepernick "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

We can not even be entertained anymore without racial conflicts on display.

Our election, the future of our country, is in the spotlight. VITAL national interests such as our economy, our national debt, our military, are all being put on the back burner due to which candidate is least racist, not who is the best to take this country on the right path.

Democrats want more diversity, Hillary Clinton proposes 5,000,000 more Muslim immigrants and amnesty for the 11-30 million illegals.

Republicans want to discuss the dangers of letting cultures in who could be dangerous, but that's "racist".

Diversity has brought this country to it's knees, and soon if we do not notice the problem it's calling this country will nose dive.

So if you're a trendy liberal who likes to say trending things like "diversity is strength", then remember 1984 and the George Soro's email leaks and you'll see how valuable diversity is to a new world order and global governance; then ask yourself: Is it patriotic to want a global government?

Diversity could, should, be Strength, but the ideal has been perverted beyond belief:

PC's Perversion of Pantera's Prophecy

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Diversity could, should, be Strength, but the ideal has been perverted beyond belief:

PC's Perversion of Pantera's Prophecy

I disagree world history shows nothing but cultures clashing.

Segregation is an instinct of all species.

a reply to: xstealth

I cant speak to any of these other cultures, but in this one, where extreme diversity is long the reality, the ultimate melting pot in all of human history, aside from blood and human social tendencies, the one thing that should unite US is how we're all getting screwed together. And unless that's how the narrative begins being framed, then we'll all continue to be at odds with one another, and well just keep getting screwed together.

Your sentiment IS understandable, but I propose that the ultimate SJW kryptonite is the argument I propose. They don't want unity, and that's why they must be stopped.

This has nothing to do with diversity but has everything to do with people not knowing how to think and indulging their bias/es.

This is not as black and white as the media/politicians/prejudiced would have you believe. Letting in a group of immigrants will probably not result in your job being lost. Letting a transgender person go to the toilet will probably not result in your child being molested... and so on. The screaming fools would have you believe that society is as fragile as a cobweb in a hurricane and everything they do not like will completely destroy us.

People need to remember we are not living in a black and white world, everything is in shades of grey. It is not "us vs them". We are being divided by bias and at the end of the day, we all bleed red and should stop focusing on what divides us and remember what unites us.

Elitism and ego is being bred into society. If Martin Luther King lived today the screaming idiots would label him an SJW and tell him to shut up.

When is this idiocy going to stop? Take individuals on their own merits and stop judging people by the demographics they "belong" to. People also argue over operating systems, phones, consoles, vehicle brands... this is prejudice and ego.

Diversity is NOT a source of conflict, prejudice, bias and ego IS.

My preceding arguments were centered around the people that are already here. An endless onslaught of totally off the grid potential criminals/terrorists that's another story.

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Diversity could, should, be Strength, but the ideal has been perverted beyond belief:

PC's Perversion of Pantera's Prophecy

Your right. It can and should be strength, but only if there is a shared story.
Example is the US military. We all came from different backgrounds, races, social classes, education levels, cultures -there's even foreigners serving for citizenship -, even different reasons for joining the military.

Each one of us brought something amazing that strengthen the unit as a whole, even if only opening our eyes to another's experiences.

The one thing we had in common, that united us, is we all went through training. We all signed up to serve.

originally posted by: LilFox
Letting in a group of immigrants will probably not result in your job being lost.

Not that I agree with anything you posted above, I just want to point out this one sentance.

There were 2.3 million jobs created in 2015.
There were 1.3 million new LEGAL immigrants added in 2015.
There were also work permits given to Illegal immigrants, and I can't find that exact number for 2015 in any of the stats, all I know is 1.4 million since 2009 in this case.

So job creation is getting hit by immigration.

I have no problem with legal immigrants, immigration in itself isn't "diversity" it just depends on their race and culture.

originally posted by: collietta
Each one of us brought something amazing that strengthen the unit as a whole, even if only opening our eyes to another's experiences.

And that same effect is why the USA is always NUMBER ONE at the Olympics.

Something we should all appreciate. Instead they've turned it into this crazy toown fest where the most decorated athlete in human history should take the back seat to some black muslim little girl whose never even won a medal.

a reply to: collietta

Also, I want to add that the problem with our culture is "other." when someone is an other, they are always considered lesser. That's why their is so much hatred. The media as well as the internet, is encouraging us to view people as less than and not a human that laughs, cries, struggles just like us. Right now we are being conditioned to believe that someone is the enemy. Straight white men are seen as monsters that make the world evil, but so are straight black males. Heavy women are viewed with disgust, but so are thin women.
Fathers are praised when they watch their kids, yet are viewed with suspicion that they are molesters.
Mothers are held in such high esteem, they can't seem to do anything right. And no help at all, cause society views any type of parental leave as a weakness.
Kids are not allowed to be kids and cry in public, or play. They are both over and under educated.

We have all been conditioned to believe we are simultaneously the villain and the victim and that is causing us to attempt perfection so we don't offend and lash out. Similar to someone saying don't look at my faults, look at his. He's the problem, not me.

a reply to: xstealth

You need to factor in the type of employment, position, pay, economic status of the region and such to make an informed statement on such things.

Those in economically disadvantaged situations are often given money to stimulate the economy because they spend it. In a fiat based economy, money being spent stimulates the economy.

Immigrants may actually be generating jobs via economic stimulation. You can be sure the majority of them spend the money they earn. Of course that is not what most people want to hear because it does not appeal to victim status or bias.

Its an extremely complex situation and the politic does not do it justice. It should not be a political football at all, it will only suffice in spreading bias and hurting people.

a reply to: LilFox

If you wander out the suburbs sometime, and go into a typical convenience store, you might happen to notice how the walls are often covered in 'phone elsewhere' ads w/ prepaid phone card options w/ Western Union stations.

Sending money OUT is extremely common. So when those types compete with residents, while dodging taxes, there's only so far and so long such a model can run unrestricted. And that's just sticking to the good folks that come in off the grid.

Considering its essentially a felony for a born & raised US Citizen to truly go Off The Grid, this whole idea might be self-explanatory how to proceed.

We all get on around where I live and it is very multi cultural, I like it.
We all stick by each other and look out for each other eat drink and be merry with each other.
You just have to make an effort and take people for who they are.
Oh and stop being afraid of people who are a little culturally different.

If I were to make the decision to produce a child, I would see it as more responsible to do it with a person of another race.
Eventually we will be interbred to the point that we are all Earthlings and skin color will not matter.
I find it absurd that it is even an issue at this point in history.

a reply to: xstealth

Americans aren't diverse.

The Indian nations are well defined but not very populous.

All the rest are immigrants and should acknowledge, and contribute positively to, American culture.

a reply to: skunkape23

I'm partial to the multi faceted perspective.

Sorta like a diamond

originally posted by: SLAYER69
a reply to: skunkape23

I'm partial to the multi faceted perspective.

Sorta like a diamond

A net of jewels. Each reflecting the other.

Diversity is a strength and should be preserved.

We need to ban interbreeding of the races!

a reply to: Boxman

Actually mixed race people do very well genetically physically etc.
As skunk said eventually we will all be the same colour just with lots of different cultural differences.

Diversity+Intelligence leads to evolution and advancement because for each group of people brought in, new ideas and ways to do things come with them and we get to pick and chose among them and find some that are better than what we had.

Diversity+ ignorance and stupidity can be a disaster though. No country should be bringing in more people than they have jobs and resources to provide for and the people they bring in should understand that the culture they are coming into isn't going to transform itself into a mirror image of the culture that they left. both those coming into the culture and those in the culture to begin with need to understand that integration more than likely will change something that affects all their lives. it's up to us to decide and direct those changes in an effort to create a better society.

if diversity=weakness, then it's kind of hard to explain just how the US, which is probably the one of the most diverse nations in the world could have ever become a superpower, wouldn't it? there are other things that can lead to weakness, like POOR MANAGEMENT and the US had been poorly managed in so many areas for at least the last 40 years.