U.S. Bombing Mission In Libya, Special Forces Included

I do not know how you guys feel about this but IMO without messing with Libya in the first place none of this would have been necessary.. France had three special forces guys killed just last week.

Small teams of Western countries’ special forces have been on the ground in eastern and western Libya for months. Last month France said three of its soldiers had been killed south of the eastern city of Benghazi, where they had been conducting intelligence operations.

By Brandon Turbeville

In an effort to bolster a weak and largely impotent U.N.-backed government in Libya, the United States has launched a bombing campaign against ISIS fighters in the city of Sirte. After having destroyed Libya and rendered what was once the country with the highest living standards in Africa to a desert of chaos and barbarism, the United States is now once again bombing the embattled nation. This time, however, the bombing is under the guise of “defeating ISIS” so that the limp GNA (Government of National Accord) can establish control over the country and, obviously, so that it might be able to translate and enforce the decisions made by the West into real results inside Libya.

Unlike in Syria, where U.S. bombing strikes are carried out mainly against Syrian military positions, civilians, or simply wasted in the desert (although sometimes ISIS targets are indeed bombed in order to encourage and force the fighters into moving from or ceding territory – terrorist herding), the bombing in Libya appears to actually be directed at ISIS targets. This is because the anti-imperialist figure of Ghaddafi is now gone and, in his place, is a puppet government more amenable to Western dictates. Thus, there is no more need, at least for now, of Islamic radicals to be used as a proxy force against the Libyan government.

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So much for no boots on the ground... Special Forces guys have probably been ordered to wear tennis shoes for the appearance of complying and plausible deniability.

a reply to: 727Sky

MIC gotta eat bro.

a reply to: 727Sky

What was done to the people Libya absolutely horrendous.

We got our puppet in the news yesterday saying "we should have been more attentive, to Libya after we removed Gaddafi" they are calling it Obama's biggest mistake.

This is sheer and utter nonsense, they destablize countires in order to fulfull their masters "order out of chaos" stategy and you can not argue with results! To me this was not a mistake it was done for a myriad of reasons, the gold back Dinar being at the top of the list!

For the sake of the Libyan people, NATO had better step in with aid and tactical strategies of neutralizing ISIS, rebuild their infrastucture and own up to our role in the destruction of their country.

Overthrowing Gaddafi with foreign mercenaries and a bombing campaign sure looks like a good idea now, right guys?!

People said this would happen, it was completely ignored. Low and behold exactly what was said would happen, did. Total anarchy and seemingly endless civil war.

"No Fly Zone". Security Council sure won't be falling for that trick again.

When will NATO stop acting like the "World Police"?

They are not bombing ISIS they are bombing the resistance to their puppet government

a reply to: 727Sky

What happened with Libya has always offended me deeply. They had a leader there that actually gave a # about his people, because he actually saw them as humans and bothered to fund social programs that would improve quality of life. Its almost a damn shame that his past had to come back to haunt him. But the Israeli's, and I think the Germans too had a score to settle. That could never be forgotten, and clearly was not forgiven either.

But jeez, could you have maybe spared the people?? The world demanded that he renounce violent extremism, and he did that. The world demanded he cease any efforts into WMD's programs, he did that too. So to just feed him to the wolves and blow out the infrastructure, that just was not necessary. A little more time into the intelligence, and we could have done a confirmed cruise missile strike. Possibly even a UCAV, but I think their detection systems were fairly decent.

And then this crazy bitch practically busts a nut when a reporter goes in that direction.

Yea, your not a psycho lady

The claim of no boots on the ground is NEVER true.

Libya is a place where western powers never belonged.

I know Ghaddafi was a dictator but he was holding that craphole together.

Obama/Hillary's Libya & Mideast policy is a complete failure that screwed over the entire world. I see this as the flashpoint for the humanitarian/mass immigration disaster in addition for allowing ISIS to literally take over Syria and large areas of Iraq and establish an Islamic caliphate.

originally posted by: projectvxn
The claim of no boots on the ground is NEVER true.

yes, this is one of the 21st century's most successful double-speaks. It almost always means JSOC is going to become involved, and many good men will be sent away from their families to make a sacrifice that will rarely be known.

NO SIR, I DON'T LIKE IT!

a reply to: AmericanRealist

Look, I'm a soldier. I was made one and I will die with that pride.

I would go anywhere to do what needed to be done on the orders of civilian leadership who govern my actions as a soldier(now a former soldier mind you...But things don't change).

That said, I don't have to like it. I don't have to agree with it.

Now that I'm out you can bet I'm going to speak about it. What we did in Libya was international crime.

The EU and the US have a lot to answer for on that front.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: AmericanRealist

Look, I'm a soldier. I was made one and I will die with that pride.

I would go anywhere to do what needed to be done on the orders of civilian leadership who govern my actions as a soldier(now a former soldier mind you...But things don't change).

That said, I don't have to like it. I don't have to agree with it.

Now that I'm out you can bet I'm going to speak about it. What we did in Libya was international crime.

The EU and the US have a lot to answer for on that front.

War crimes trial for a blatant war of aggression might be a good place to start.

Not gonna happen, I know, but a man can dream. Maybe one day these people will face justice for their crimes. Not just in Libya but practically everywhere across the world.

a reply to: Ohanka

I think somewhere this is part of the reason for Brexit as well.

Being taken to war on the whims of the EU is not something that I think would sit right with many regular Brits.

In the US we have a binary political system that makes the people justify one action over the other depending on what color team they play for.

a reply to: projectvxn

I am not an American but I imagine you swear to uphold the constitution, most constitutions outline that Parliament has to approve war,yet the bombing in Libya starts August 1 as Congress goes into a recess,so wouldn't this operation be unconstitutional?

a reply to: Ohanka

Indeed they did. I called it a few years back, same as Iraq etc...

a reply to: 727Sky

I've always hated the lie of no boots on the ground for bombing/no-fly-zones. At least they are being honest about the operation. Bombing equals boots on the ground. The motto of SF is "DE OPPRESSO LIBER" for a reason.

Don't agree with mucking with Libya again. We should have finished the job last time, since we didn't we should stay out.

a reply to: khnum

Depends.

There is plenty of room for congress to hand the White House plenty of unilateral power.

It's wrong, I think it's unconstitutional, but there is only one way to deal with it.

And it isn't pretty.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Ohanka

I think somewhere this is part of the reason for Brexit as well.

Being taken to war on the whims of the EU is not something that I think would sit right with many regular Brits.

In the US we have a binary political system that makes the people justify one action over the other depending on what color team they play for.

Well we followed America into an illegal war with Iraq, our puppet masters are no difference to yours, Membership of Europe almost prevented us from that mistake!

I don't know the master plan is, Turkey next though.

originally posted by: Ohanka
Overthrowing Gaddafi with foreign mercenaries and a bombing campaign sure looks like a good idea now, right guys?!

People said this would happen, it was completely ignored. Low and behold exactly what was said would happen, did. Total anarchy and seemingly endless civil war.

"No Fly Zone". Security Council sure won't be falling for that trick again.

When will NATO stop acting like the "World Police"?

When they start paying their own way.

Amazing how many low cost ideas you can come up with when it's your own money.

Has anyone given the conspiracy thought of this is to keep Libya in turmoil so weapons running via the wikileaks Hillary dump aren't fully exposed? Or something along those lines?

Is obama starting another war?

I heard he is trying to clean up a bit for hillary.

I'm sorry but bombing and SF's won't do much if no one can hold the ground. The Libyans don't seem worth much.

Unless he's going to have 10,000 SF's in there, it's more whack a mole.

I just think it's a damn shame what they did to them and Egypt. Hell, Iraq and Afghanistan too.

Screwed all them people big time.