Military Veterans Shot Those Police Officers NOT BLM

a reply to: TheAmazingYeti

These men are fully guilty of their crimes, and they are the only ones who are. Nonetheless, people are led to action by the content of their beliefs. The military does not supply the sort of content that convinces one to harm police officers, though it may supply the skills to do so.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Painting all military vets with the broad stroke of guilt

I'm quite certain your exaggeration is a work of fiction.

I saw no broadbrushing "all military vets".

OK, change the title of the thread and see if you see outrage......

Instead of, "Military Veterans Shot Those Police Officers"
Change it to the equally factual "Black Men Shot those Police Officers"

Are you about to start a KKK rant because all Blacks get broad brushed with that statement? If so I win you lose the argument.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Painting all military vets with the broad stroke of guilt

I'm quite certain your exaggeration is a work of fiction.

I saw no broadbrushing "all military vets".

OK, change the title of the thread and see if you see outrage......

Instead of, "Military Veterans Shot Those Police Officers"
Change it to the equally factual "Black Men Shot those Police Officers"

Are you about to start a KKK rant because all Blacks get broad brushed with that statement? If so I win you lose the argument.

It would be equally factual but much more vague.

The rest of your post I have no idea what you're on about honestly.
Calm your tits I do not come here to "win" and neither should you, you're a grown man.

State your opinion and move on to the next one.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: TheAmazingYeti

You're argument holds an element of truth, but is flawed.

They were BLM supporters who happened to be military veterans which gave the the skills necessary to pull off a police shooting on behalf of BLM.

I don't believe Gavin Long had any connection to BLM whatsoever, and the Dallas shooter was sympathetic to their cause, but not part of it.

Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

You don't need a "connection." BLM has helped to create a climate of antagonism toward policemen, particularly white ones. The rhetoric that comes from BLM is inflammatory. This climate creates a situation where someone so-inclined feels righteous about killing policemen and does so out of revenge. BLM has given them the excuse to act out their aggression. That doesn't mean BLM is legally responsible. It is, after all, a very loose organization whose main tactic appears to be disruption of whatever public event is happening; they don't much care what it is.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Painting all military vets with the broad stroke of guilt

I'm quite certain your exaggeration is a work of fiction.

I saw no broadbrushing "all military vets".

OK, change the title of the thread and see if you see outrage......

Instead of, "Military Veterans Shot Those Police Officers"
Change it to the equally factual "Black Men Shot those Police Officers"

Are you about to start a KKK rant because all Blacks get broad brushed with that statement? If so I win you lose the argument.

It would be equally factual but much more vague.

The rest of your post I have no idea what you're on about honestly.
Calm your tits I do not come here to "win" and neither should you, you're a grown man.

State your opinion and move on to the next one.

I accept your capitulation and am moving on gracefully.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

Why would we assume they were sympathizers? Because of the color of their skin?

Because BLM supporter's and leader's rhetoric calls for dead cops? You think its just a coincidence that they call for violence against cops and then violence against cops happens at BLM rallies?

Oh nice, I posted videos of BLM rallies calling for dead cops was removed as "off topic" in a thread about the relationship between dead cops and BLM.

Evidence of BLM support on the moderation staff. They don't openly come out and state it but their actions define their position crystal clear, just like these shooters all did their cop killing actions at BLM rallies where they always chant kill cops kill whitey.

Yeah blame the Mods instead of Bulk's off topic derailment.

He was trying to remould the purpose of the thread as he often does.

blaming the Mods.

The thread Title claims it has nothing to do with BLM, I was providing proof that it does have to do with BLM. How is that off topic?

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

The military does not supply the sort of content that convinces one to harm police officers

obviously you have not read any of the many articles of CIA MK-ULTRA victims who turn on their own countrymen.

Mens Rea comes to mind, but they rarely make it Court. He was under medication - what about any other special meds he was under, the answer will never be known; but it will further the agenda of splitting the USA.

I smell the hand of covert agencies again

originally posted by: introvert
This is an important aspect, but I fear that some will jump to demonize our veterans in the same fashion the Right Wing has so easily demonized BLM.

The most important thing we need to remember is that it was individuals that killed those officers. Not veterans. Not BLM.

I have to agree with you on this though some would say the BLM demonizes itself needing no outside help.

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Hazardous1408

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: introvert

Why would we assume they were sympathizers? Because of the color of their skin?

Because BLM supporter's and leader's rhetoric calls for dead cops? You think its just a coincidence that they call for violence against cops and then violence against cops happens at BLM rallies?

Oh nice, I posted videos of BLM rallies calling for dead cops was removed as "off topic" in a thread about the relationship between dead cops and BLM.

Evidence of BLM support on the moderation staff. They don't openly come out and state it but their actions define their position crystal clear, just like these shooters all did their cop killing actions at BLM rallies where they always chant kill cops kill whitey.

Yeah blame the Mods instead of Bulk's off topic derailment.

He was trying to remould the purpose of the thread as he often does.

blaming the Mods.

The thread Title claims it has nothing to do with BLM, I was providing proof that it does have to do with BLM. How is that off topic?

Well now, let's see...
You can only link those two things in your mind, as is your right to do so...


When you bring it to the forum and use it as evidence with no paper trail of direct link to the two shootings you run the risk of derailing the topic.

You're providing flimsy evidence, not proof.

Hence the post removal.

Trust me, plenty of times I thought I was on topic and have had posts removed.

Looking back I now understand, even if I complained at the time.

I have to ask. . .

So what if it's veterans that have committed these crimes?

What are you going to do?

Lock us all up?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I have to ask. . .

So what if it's veterans that have committed these crimes?

What are you going to do?

Lock us all up?

No. It was an act of the individual. The individual pays the price.

We also have to ask since it was black men that committed these crimes, do we blame them all (BLM)?

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I have to ask. . .

So what if it's veterans that have committed these crimes?

What are you going to do?

Lock us all up?

Give you better veterans healthcare would be a nicer thing to do.

But then all those FEMA camps go to waste on mere Muslims.

And they'll not want you around when the gun grab comes, so you maybe right.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I have to ask. . .

So what if it's veterans that have committed these crimes?

What are you going to do?

Lock us all up?

Now you know how members of BLM feel who have never been violent or advocated for violence.

This thread is absolutely disgusting.

Seriously trying to slur military veterans.

Neither Micah Johnson or Gavin Long suffered 'PTSD'.

originally posted by: neo96
This thread is absolutely disgusting.

Seriously trying to slur military veterans.

Neither Micah Johnson or Gavin Long suffered 'PTSD'.

No one is "trying to slur" military vets. In fact, we have expressed concern that they may be targeted if we do not realize the individual is to blame.

But we must also apply that to other "groups" as well. Have to be consistent.

a reply to: introvert

Oh so NOW the 'individual' is to blame.

Might want to go tell that to gun grabbers, and BLM.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: introvert

Oh so NOW the 'individual' is to blame.

Might want to go tell that to gun grabbers, and BLM.

Isn't it great when you catch them get caught up in their own webs.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: introvert

Oh so NOW the 'individual' is to blame.

Might want to go tell that to gun grabbers, and BLM.

Violence with a firearm is an act of the individual. I think you need to address that to someone else, as I have been very consistent on that point.

Military Veterans Shot Those Police Officers NOT BLM

WOW!!!! That's a good way to shift the blame.
Speaking as a Vet of course.

a reply to: TheAmazingYeti

If this was PTSD related then wouldn't White veterans be mass murdering cops too?