Apologists For Black Lives Matter

a reply to: reldra

2 separate people U2Ud me this morning saying they cannot handle the toxic environment any longer.

No offense, but if they are SJW's like yourself (Your picture says SJW) then the only reason I can think of for them to leave is because the facts offend them, and people aren't buying into what they are trying to do.

originally posted by: reldra
2 separate people U2Ud me this morning saying they cannot handle the toxic environment any longer.

I wouldn't expect less.

When pathological liars are publicly exposed ... they experience a mental melt-down. When people realize they were (and are) wrong, something very similar occurs. It's always good to know the difference between:

Holding onto facts.
Holding onto beliefs.
Swallowing lies ... hook, line and sinker.

One of the things we shouldn't forget, is that 'pathological' is a condition rarely overcome.

originally posted by: introvert
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There was even a racist epithet in the thread title that the mods snipped.

Disgusting.

Edit: heard wrong.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk
Notice these liars keep claiming how racist it is at ATS yet NEVER produce a single shred of evidence?

Take a look at this thread. There are some precious moments to behold.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

There was even a racist epithet in the thread title that the mods snipped.

Disgusting.

Yup.

Plenty of evidence to be found. It all depends on whether or not a person is open to the reality of it.

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: reldra
2 separate people U2Ud me this morning saying they cannot handle the toxic environment any longer.

I wouldn't expect less.

When pathological liars are publicly exposed ... they experience a mental melt-down. When people realize they were (and are) wrong, something very similar occurs. It's always good to know the difference between:

Holding onto facts.
Holding onto beliefs.
Swallowing lies ... hook, line and sinker.

One of the things we shouldn't forget, is that 'pathological' is a condition rarely overcome.

You laid it out much better than I did in my post above yours. That really is the bottom line. If the educated sjw's on ATS cannot see the facts for what they are yet, then the people of BLM will never see it and we are in for some very bad times.

OR, they DO see it and know the truth, but true justice is not what they really seek, but something more sinister instead.

a reply to: Boadicea

The title is referring to Franchesca Ramsey and Cenk Ugyr, two people that I believe are bad people at the core. I believe they both have ulterior motives behind the media they produce that has a very racist agenda.

I am not sure if you have read my posts prior to this, but my message is very clear: get racism out of everything.

The current racial climate in this country is being perpetrated by the far left. People are being used as cannon fodder to stoke the flames. Before this growing trend of the social justice ideology being pushed, things seemed to be doing pretty decently in the racism department in this country.

Now we have an entire political class constantly poking the hornets nest, and the media is stoking the flames as much as they can. The people that subscribe to this far left rhetoric are the problem. Every second of every day they are pushing this "whites are racist" nonsense, and it is now bleeding into every facet of society. If we know anything about the way our society is being socially engineered, then we can see that this is all by design. Every issue in America is now seen as a racist issue. White people have now been made the enemy to anyone that is not a straight white male. It is out of control and needs to stop.

The far left and BLM movements are just acting as useful idiots pushing all of this garbage, and the people sympathizing with it are helping to do so.

The way I see things, is that everyone should have equal opportunity and equal rights. Guess what? In the USA, people do. The only thing stopping people from having and doing what they want is themselves. I am sick and tired of all of the racist rhetoric. I want everyone to be reasonable and take personal responsibility. I want everyone to be happy and get along.

None if this is going to happen until people stop buying into the propaganda. Unfortunately, we see another black slavery taking place in America. Every single person marching and chanting in the BLM movement have walked right back onto the plantation, serving the masters at the top. The new cottonball is a BLM sign. Every time a black person or any other type of person calls someone racist, they are setting their own cause back. Every time someone says they are oppressed, the political establishment laughs, because they are getting the exact results they have been working for for the last 10 or so years.

This does not discount that there is a poverty problem, or police brutality problem. There are tons of issues in this country and world, but the one problem we do not have is a racial oppression problem. This manufactured problem is not going to end well at this point, unless the people on the far left propping it up decide to stop propping it up.

originally posted by: Hazardous1408

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk
Notice these liars keep claiming how racist it is at ATS yet NEVER produce a single shred of evidence?

Take a look at this thread. There are some precious moments to behold.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

There was even a racist epithet in the thread title that the mods snipped.

Disgusting.

Nope.

That's not what was snipped from it.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Hazardous1408

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: TheBulk
Notice these liars keep claiming how racist it is at ATS yet NEVER produce a single shred of evidence?

Take a look at this thread. There are some precious moments to behold.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

There was even a racist epithet in the thread title that the mods snipped.

Disgusting.

Yup.

Plenty of evidence to be found. It all depends on whether or not a person is open to the reality of it.

Ahhhhhhahahahaha!!

One opinion from one point of view. Do you know how many sides there are to a coin?

A fallacy is an incorrect argument in logic and rhetoric which undermines an argument's logical validity or more generally an argument's logical soundness. Fallacies are either formal fallacies or informal fallacies.

These are commonly used styles of argument in convincing people, where the focus is on communication and results rather than the correctness of the logic, and may be used whether the point being advanced is correct or not.

a reply to: reldra

If you think that anything I typed in my thread was racist, than you have the problem, not me.

Yes, keep accusing people of being racist, as that is not adding to a non-existent problem.

a reply to: Snarl

One opinion from one point of view. Do you know how many sides there are to a coin?

Only two. Comparing the race issue to a coin is a fallacy in and of itself because the issue has many varying degrees.

originally posted by: reldra
That graphic is nonsense. BLM may have formed in 2009. But it's only been the last 2 years anyone has talked about it.

BLM formed in 2013, and that line there is generously where it should be.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Did you not know that graphs are raycis?

originally posted by: introvert
Only two.

You see? This is a debatable opinion, because from my perspective there are, in fact, four (the head's side, the tail's side, the ridged side, and the inside). And even then, I'm sure someone else might be able to come along and 'prove' my shortsightedness.

Comparing the race issue to a coin is a fallacy in and of itself because the issue has many varying degrees.

Now ... finally ... you're beginning to get it.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: onequestion

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: reldra

Apologists for you mean people who don't call BLM racist or evil or militant. I an SICK of this RACIST crap here. We are losing poeple in droves. People simply cannot endure the constant atacks on Muslims and Blacks.

Correct. ATS is being exploited by Neo-Nazis and Klansmen. They are posting propaganda and lies and drowning out anyone who tries to point out what is wrong in what they are saying. It's alarming, and the fate of ATS may be in the balance.

Wrong.

The truth is not racist however I still am not agreeing with anything in the OP I would just like to point out that a narrative is being driven that anytime someone says something that disagrees with the liberal agenda it is called racist.

The mods do not allow racism it's against TnC

The Mods must be fast asleep. Have you noticed that whenever someone stands up for African American rights, there are accusations of "black racism?" This has become pervasive, and has happened almost overnight. Black Lives Matter is being targeted by a disinformation campaign, and whenever anyone points out that the source materials are biased, or even false, there is a chorus of "racism," or when the member's racist statements are challenged, they are met with this now mass produced meme: "If I disagree with you I am a racist?"

No, people, you are not a racist because you disagree with me, you are a racist because you make false statements to support racist beliefs.

So lets see if I have this right. Black people get to decide who can use the "N" word and who can't...and their choice isn't racist. Black people (apparently) get to decide what the definition of "racism" is because, obviously, if I state a fact or voice an opinion...that isn't racist unless I say my race is superior to yours. And now...blacks get to chose what equality is too? You know...that they are allowed to act anyway they want, commit a higher percentage of crime, riot but we can't say anything about that because that is PART of being black???? Is that the logic?

How about this. You are a law abiding non-asshole legal citizen you will be treated just like the rest of us. You decide to riot and get your self a television...now your no longer equal.

a reply to: DJW001

Who ,where,I don't like them ...show me...did they POST ?

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: onequestion

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: reldra

Apologists for you mean people who don't call BLM racist or evil or militant. I an SICK of this RACIST crap here. We are losing poeple in droves. People simply cannot endure the constant atacks on Muslims and Blacks.

Correct. ATS is being exploited by Neo-Nazis and Klansmen. They are posting propaganda and lies and drowning out anyone who tries to point out what is wrong in what they are saying. It's alarming, and the fate of ATS may be in the balance.

Wrong.

The truth is not racist however I still am not agreeing with anything in the OP I would just like to point out that a narrative is being driven that anytime someone says something that disagrees with the liberal agenda it is called racist.

The mods do not allow racism it's against TnC

The Mods must be fast asleep. Have you noticed that whenever someone stands up for African American rights, there are accusations of "black racism?" This has become pervasive, and has happened almost overnight. Black Lives Matter is being targeted by a disinformation campaign, and whenever anyone points out that the source materials are biased, or even false, there is a chorus of "racism," or when the member's racist statements are challenged, they are met with this now mass produced meme: "If I disagree with you I am a racist?"

No, people, you are not a racist because you disagree with me, you are a racist because you make false statements to support racist beliefs.

Im generally an ally. But SOME members of minority groups DO say things that are prejudicial, bigoted, or racist about white folk. It's foolish to think otherwise.

Their problematic behavior, however, does not actually take away from the real goals of social justice, nor the fact that people of color experience racism.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: onequestion

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: reldra

Apologists for you mean people who don't call BLM racist or evil or militant. I an SICK of this RACIST crap here. We are losing poeple in droves. People simply cannot endure the constant atacks on Muslims and Blacks.

Correct. ATS is being exploited by Neo-Nazis and Klansmen. They are posting propaganda and lies and drowning out anyone who tries to point out what is wrong in what they are saying. It's alarming, and the fate of ATS may be in the balance.

Wrong.

The truth is not racist however I still am not agreeing with anything in the OP I would just like to point out that a narrative is being driven that anytime someone says something that disagrees with the liberal agenda it is called racist.

The mods do not allow racism it's against TnC

The Mods must be fast asleep. Have you noticed that whenever someone stands up for African American rights, there are accusations of "black racism?" This has become pervasive, and has happened almost overnight. Black Lives Matter is being targeted by a disinformation campaign, and whenever anyone points out that the source materials are biased, or even false, there is a chorus of "racism," or when the member's racist statements are challenged, they are met with this now mass produced meme: "If I disagree with you I am a racist?"

No, people, you are not a racist because you disagree with me, you are a racist because you make false statements to support racist beliefs.

Hey DJW...I'll bite. What are these "false statements to support racist beliefs" you mention? I'd like to know exactly what you mean by that and what you would consider examples.

originally posted by: supremecommander

originally posted by: iTruthSeeker

originally posted by: supremecommander

originally posted by: onequestion

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: reldra

Apologists for you mean people who don't call BLM racist or evil or militant. I an SICK of this RACIST crap here. We are losing poeple in droves. People simply cannot endure the constant atacks on Muslims and Blacks.

Correct. ATS is being exploited by Neo-Nazis and Klansmen. They are posting propaganda and lies and drowning out anyone who tries to point out what is wrong in what they are saying. It's alarming, and the fate of ATS may be in the balance.

Wrong.

The truth is not racist however I still am not agreeing with anything in the OP I would just like to point out that a narrative is being driven that anytime someone says something that disagrees with the liberal agenda it is called racist.

The mods do not allow racism it's against TnC

When you use "truth" to slander entire groups of people it is indeed racist.

And PLEASE. Racist comments are posted on here daily and are left to stand. But let someone attack the poster making the comments only then do you see moderation. I find that odd.

Care to show us a few "racist" comments? I have seen people post statistics and such. But have not seen any racism, except coming from one side.

And re: the stats...sorry, but they do not apply to me as an individual, I am not a statistic, a criminal, a welfare recipient, nor do I fall under any of the stereotypes you've learned about "the blacks" through your 3rd person interactions with us on TV. There are many, many black people that can stand up proudly and say the same.

I think this is the most important point made in this thread so far.

I am white and I have been a victim of racism on more than one occasion. However, my fiancé and I, as a white couple living in a lower income, predominately black community, have not experienced one bit of racism here from our neighbors.

We walk whenever we go somewhere local so we are out and about at all times of the day and have not had an issue.

I am not naive to the fact that something COULD happen to us, but it could happen anywhere and could be perpetrated by anyone. If I let statistics scare me from living my life in the area I live it, I would have missed out on the experiential knowledge that comes from getting to know the people in my community from different backgrounds.

It seems to me that most people who are bigoted lose that hatred once they become closer to the object of their ire. This has been shown time and time again by people who change their views on other races, sexualities, etc once the issue becomes one that immediately affects their family. I have seen that play out first hand in my community as well.

We need to be out there getting to know one another and dialoguing on these issues that affect ALL OF US. Of course there are some racists in BLM and maybe even the people that formed and run it have impure motivations. But you're average citizen supporting the movement, I believe, is just looking for equality and is completely unaware of any overarching political implications in the management of.

Just my two cents.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: onequestion

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: reldra

Apologists for you mean people who don't call BLM racist or evil or militant. I an SICK of this RACIST crap here. We are losing poeple in droves. People simply cannot endure the constant atacks on Muslims and Blacks.

Correct. ATS is being exploited by Neo-Nazis and Klansmen. They are posting propaganda and lies and drowning out anyone who tries to point out what is wrong in what they are saying. It's alarming, and the fate of ATS may be in the balance.

Wrong.

The truth is not racist however I still am not agreeing with anything in the OP I would just like to point out that a narrative is being driven that anytime someone says something that disagrees with the liberal agenda it is called racist.

The mods do not allow racism it's against TnC

The Mods must be fast asleep. Have you noticed that whenever someone stands up for African American rights, there are accusations of "black racism?" This has become pervasive, and has happened almost overnight. Black Lives Matter is being targeted by a disinformation campaign, and whenever anyone points out that the source materials are biased, or even false, there is a chorus of "racism," or when the member's racist statements are challenged, they are met with this now mass produced meme: "If I disagree with you I am a racist?"

No, people, you are not a racist because you disagree with me, you are a racist because you make false statements to support racist beliefs.

So lets see if I have this right. Black people get to decide who can use the "N" word and who can't...and their choice isn't racist. Black people (apparently) get to decide what the definition of "racism" is because, obviously, if I state a fact or voice an opinion...that isn't racist unless I say my race is superior to yours. And now...blacks get to chose what equality is too? You know...that they are allowed to act anyway they want, commit a higher percentage of crime, riot but we can't say anything about that because that is PART of being black???? Is that the logic?

How about this. You are a law abiding non-asshole legal citizen you will be treated just like the rest of us. You decide to riot and get your self a television...now your no longer equal.

Why are you upset that you aren't allowed to call people the N word?