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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
It smells like burnt hair...People, grown adults running around with their hair on fire as if this was all somehow unexpected?

I've been saying it since day 1 -- nothing will come of this. I tried to help those with BHS (burning hair syndrome) prepare and brace themselves, but for some reason they maintained that she was going down.

Every day there were 2-3 "new" email gossip threads about how bad things looked for Hillary. And each time I said nope, this isn't going to happen guys, let's be real and stop fantasizing.

I mean, a handful of emails? Compared to the 22 million that went "missing" under Bush? I want to make a movie trailer..

"In a land where politics rule...If you thought Congress wasted a lot of money and time investigating Bengazhi more than 9/11 -- watch out! This summer...more congressional time will be wasted. More taxpayer money will fund fruitless investigations. This summer..EMAILGATE will sweep DC...and everyone's Outlook calendars will be totally full!"

That's the difference between the Democrats and Republics I guess. I blame the Democrats for not going after Bush, Rice and Cheney harder.

This sounds like whataboutery and if they didn't...she didn't...

Her not being held accountable is ok then because it didn't happen last time?

Interesting.

Hillary broke the rules here.
From the Daily Caller:

The State Department’s Foreign Affairs manual prohibits the storage of classified material on any external drive, stating, “the flash drive may only be used for the transfer of unclassified files.”
Flash and thumb drives are treated inter-changeably by the rules. Further, unclassified material must be on a “department owned” drive, not a personal or private sector drive.
If the information on the drive is unclassified, but still sensitive, it “must be encrypted to current standards” for transportation, according to the manual. State Department rules also required that Clinton’s email transfer had to be approved and closely supervised by a department computer security official.
Finally, the National Institute for Standards and Technology, which sets minimum government-wide standards for IT security, ordered that thumb drive restrictions be imposed if the contents were “high value,” a lower standard than classified information. Read more: dailycaller.com...

Then there's this:

Kendall learned on May 22 that Clinton’s emails contained classified material, but it was not until six weeks later that any steps were taken to secure the emails. Six weeks later, on July 8, the State Department insisted that Kendall secure the drives in a government-issued safe, which it sent to his law firm. “The thing that’s always bothered me is the timeline,” said a congressional investigator familiar with security matters. “You have a six-week gap there where they know it’s classified but they have no protection in place to secure the thumb drives.” Read more: dailycaller.com...

The thumb drives were not protected for six weeks AFTER they knew that there was classified material on them!

I find it amazing how some people watched all that, hours of it, and only came away with "so she had a few emails".

That, is not what everyone is concerned with.

It's the lying, the destruction of evidence, the obstruction of justice.

Stop being such a Cummings and open your eyes.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

Why are you making this about being right, and yourself?

The fact that Hillary Clinton has perjured herself, on multiple levels should make everyone ill.

It's despicable the way both parties are acting, and what they are getting away with.

I will write someone in this time around that, imo, has moral fiber. My vote won't count, but my conscience, and moral compass will rest at ease.

a reply to: Realtruth

True, but its all just for show. Bluster without substance.
Reminds me of the song "Paper Moon".

We can be fooled into thinking the Congress critters are angry about HRC and how she skirts the law, but in the end, they don't have the guts to take her down because HRC and Bill have the dirty laundry on everyone of them.

a reply to: Realtruth

I dont know.. .I didnt watch all of it, but what I saw seemed to be for the most part Republicans asking to the point questions and leaving the name calling and wailing to the democrats...

I am not a fan of the GOP but that was quite possibly the most professional I have seen them in my life time.

a reply to: Realtruth

Because, in the end ... the world will still turn, we'll all scramble and fight over little slips of green paper, and eventually die after probably being sick and elderly.

Sorry if this news isn't causing me to spontaneously combust in a fit of rage. It was fairly straight-forward and easy to predict.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: Realtruth

True, but its all just for show. Bluster without substance.
Reminds me of the song "Paper Moon".

We can be fooled into thinking the Congress critters are angry about HRC and how she skirts the law, but in the end, they don't have the guts to take her down because HRC and Bill have the dirty laundry on everyone of them.

Yea because they are all in bed together, and have a monster CYA file, so most likely you are 100% correct. Disgusting and I hope they have many reincarnations together.

originally posted by: MisterSpock
I find it amazing how some people watched all that, hours of it, and only came away with "so she had a few emails".

That, is not what everyone is concerned with.

It's the lying, the destruction of evidence, the obstruction of justice.

Yes...but "Lying" "Destruction of Evidence" and "Obstruction of Justice" is precisely what Comey said he found no evidence of after thousands of agents were tasked with a 20 Million Dollar investigation spanning several years and 30k+ emails.

Did she eff-up? Yes. Was it a eff-up rooted in arrogance? Yes. Did she lie, obstruct justice or destroy evidence? no ...and I take the word of the FBI who invested much time, resources and money to determine the same.

Didn't Comey testify that Hillary's server was in the basement because it was already conveniently set up as Bill's server?

But Bill has said in the past that he doesn't use email...

Am I missing something?

originally posted by: texasgirl
Didn't Comey testify that Hillary's server was in the basement because it was already conveniently set up as Bill's server?

But Bill has said in the past that he doesn't use email...

Am I missing something?

Wouldn't it be nice to know which liar to believe?

We should vote for people like that!

originally posted by: texasgirl
Didn't Comey testify that Hillary's server was in the basement because it was already conveniently set up as Bill's server?

But Bill has said in the past that he doesn't use email...

Am I missing something?

Bill used it as a porn server, probably had 10+TB's of pornhub videos on there.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: Realtruth

Because, in the end ... the world will still turn, we'll all scramble and fight over little slips of green paper, and eventually die after probably being sick and elderly.

Sorry if this news isn't causing me to spontaneously combust in a fit of rage. It was fairly straight-forward and easy to predict.

Well the cliche of the end and life cycle is a given, and I don't believe anyone will combust today, so no worries.

Easy to predict, sure and the system is rigged, and people are sick of it.

The very people there to protect and serve us are mocking, lying, stealing, cheating, and covering for each other.

And yes it will end when we eventually die, but while we live here why not have some basic ethics and morals, especially the role models and people in power.

We wonder why our things are so F'd up today, just look at our role models.

People will think: sure let's do what ever we want because the president and our leaders do it, so it must be ok.

originally posted by: Aazadan
Seriously , when is enough enough?

If the GOP doesn't drop this and start focusing on real issues, I'm not voting for a single one of them come November.

"Enough" is when Hillary goes before the Nation and admits she lied dozens of times about high impact issues.

Think that will ever happen ?

I don't



Congress will get her on perjury real soon.

Watch for it.

Who would trust Hillary Clinton after the exposures since Tuesday?

Newsflash, Hillary lied about her private email being 'allowed'.
It was totally against the rules.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: MisterSpock
I find it amazing how some people watched all that, hours of it, and only came away with "so she had a few emails".

That, is not what everyone is concerned with.

It's the lying, the destruction of evidence, the obstruction of justice.

Yes...but "Lying" "Destruction of Evidence" and "Obstruction of Justice" is precisely what Comey said he found no evidence of after thousands of agents were tasked with a 20 Million Dollar investigation spanning several years and 30k+ emails.

Did she eff-up? Yes. Was it a eff-up rooted in arrogance? Yes. Did she lie, obstruct justice or destroy evidence? no ...and I take the word of the FBI who invested much time, resources and money to determine the same.

I'm sorry, but if you watched all that video and saw no confirmation of some of the lies she's told,

or failed to see that destroying emails, that where supposed to be handed over to the FBI as part of an investigation, as destruction of evidence

or the destruction of said emails being a way to hinder said case.

Then I really don't know what I, or anyone, can say to help you out. It's going to have to be something that, hopefully, one day you figure out for yourself.

a reply to: Indigo5

Um she did lie multiple times... Comey even confirmed that when gowdy first ask his questions...

I'm glad that they are discussing her violations of federal record keeping and FOIA, since apparently the FBI ignored that. If they had bothered to investigate that, they probably could have found their intent.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
She broke a law that many people have been prosecuted under... heck I was punished for sending a personal email from my work system to my home system because it created a risk to the secure system if my home computer was compromised...

It doesn't matter. It is an extremely bad idea for politicians to start convicting each other for partisan gain. If we start going down that road blood will be on the streets within a couple years as people seek justice for an unending string of perceived wrongs and to avenge their teams fallen warriors.

I'm not of the opinion that we should turn politicians into martyrs, and I don't think Hillary Clinton is worth starting a war for.

Once you reach a certain point in government, you are above the law. That may seem unfair but it's why Bush can be secure he will never go down for war crimes, Hillary can be sure she will never go down for espionage, and we can all sleep at night knowing no politically crazed individuals are going to go out in a blaze of glory defending their leader.

If it wasn't this, it was the Clinton Foundation, before that was Benghazi, Libya, Syria, and others. Literally everything this woman has done since 2000 when her husband was no longer in power has been under a media blitz. She is public enemy #1 of the right and it's for no good reason because her accomplishments after 24 years are nil.

She screwed up, add it to the list of reasons why she's incompetent and move on. The FBI is very anti Hillary and couldn't move forward when given a clear path to do so. Let it go and focus on the issues of the campaign. The people whose votes matter (swing voters in battleground states) aren't going to be swayed by any of this.

The ones you should be angry at are the Republicans. They have tried for 24 years to nail something, anything on this woman and they have failed. They look like a bunch of losers to me if they can't even do something as simple as that.

a reply to: xuenchen

If anything, she will put on her poor-old-stupid-lady routine and say "oops, I had no idea".