Muslims - there are good ones AND bad ones - Deal with it!

a reply to: andy06shake

I think this is this is the most likely.

crap happens and over time peoples opinions and social value systems rise and fall, and what was acceptable back then sure is not today, and vice versa.

But I don't belong to the cult of religionism anymore, so maybe I have lost my indoctrinated mindset?

a reply to: TerryDon79

"But I don't belong to the cult of religionism anymore, so maybe I have lost my indoctrinated mindset?"

Given half a chance people choose what they wish to believe. Religion may not indoctrinated the masses in the same manner as it has in the past, but are our mass media news networks really any different than the churches and cathedrals of the past?

End of the day we are all indoctrinated to some degree another simply down to human contact, point of fact, in this information age contact is not ever required, we have our inter webs, txt msg, email and other such methods to communicate without ever leaving our home/work place.

People were indoctrinated by religion in the past, today technology does to us the same and quite possible far more efficiently control wise.

a reply to: andy06shake

I somewhat agree to that, but I think we've taken a completely different road from the thread now lol.

And your point is? We must bend over for everyone? And take it like a tolerant champ?

How about the ideology is the problem, and it is those who follow it to the extent it is supposed to be followed are the bad ones, and the other ones are actually not doing their job?

Make you feel better?

I'm sure some hells angels are nice guys too. Maybe we should accept all bikers into our homes for christmas.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Tenebris

Completely agree. There's the really nice ones, not so nice ones, neutral ones, bad ones and the extremists.

To single out a whole culture or religion because of the extremists is rediculous.

It would be like hating all Christians because of "The Army of God", all Americans because of the mass murders, all the Finnish because of the skinheads, all the British because of the BNP and so on.

You got any bloods or crips coming over for dinner tonight?

I mean to say all gang members are bad is "rediculous"

Go on, be a happy camper, invite them all in, there are only a few who will want to steal your things, beat you for your culture, rape your wife... not enough to worry about.. hell, it will only be 1 or 2 who want to blow your house up.

originally posted by: frenchfries
you're so right... and it takes a good one to tell you how really bad the bad ones are!

Don't look at me, look at that guy over there, cor blimey, he's a right geezer..

Like that, you mean?

originally posted by: savemebarry

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Tenebris

Completely agree. There's the really nice ones, not so nice ones, neutral ones, bad ones and the extremists.

To single out a whole culture or religion because of the extremists is rediculous.

It would be like hating all Christians because of "The Army of God", all Americans because of the mass murders, all the Finnish because of the skinheads, all the British because of the BNP and so on.

You got any bloods or crips coming over for dinner tonight?

I mean to say all gang members are bad is "rediculous"

Go on, be a happy camper, invite them all in, there are only a few who will want to steal your things, beat you for your culture, rape your wife... not enough to worry about.. hell, it will only be 1 or 2 who want to blow your house up.

A man killed someone. That means we can't trust all men now.

A woman killed someone. That means we can't trust women now.

There ya go. That's everyone in your special "they're trying to kill you" box.

originally posted by: mekhanics
a reply to: Tenebris

But Majority Militant farty Christians are in a mission to convince everyone, 1.6B Muslims are BAD! Their religion are BAD. So therefore they're terrorists!

F****n flat-earthers!

And Majority SJW unwashed Socialists are in a mission to convince everyone, 1.6B Muslims are GOOD! Their religions is GOOD. And that every terrorist attack by islamists who proudly proclaim their allegiance, is a CIA PSYOP.

F****n mouth breathers!

originally posted by: SpaceGoatFart

originally posted by: Snarl
Most people have a problem with the political ends of Islam. They simply fail to see there are two components: One religious and the other governance.

Focus on the governance part ... and you can kick every stinking one of them back to the Middle East where their system of government belongs.

I have a problem with the political ends of Christian faith and Zionism in the US.

Ahh I had no idea that christianity and judaism were actually political ideologies. Where yo9u do not only have a religion, but a political, and governing way of life.

I mean, you do know what islam is, right? It's not some dudes going to church on sunday....

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: imsoconfused

"If the majority of Muslims would stop wanting us dead maybe that would stop."

But the majority of Muslims just want to get on with there lives and really wish you no ill will whatsoever.

Why not try testing the premise of you argument? Ask 10 everyday Muslims out on the street whether or not they wish you dead.

Whats the bet that 9 of them really dont give a crap?

How about you do that. Let us know how you go. Wander into a majority Muslim neighbourhood (Don't have one yet, you will. we have lots) and ask them. See how you fare.

But then from your post, sounds like you already know a few hundred thousand muslims.. I mean, you know what the majority think when the evidence to the contrary shows otherwise. Damn MSM hey...

a reply to: savemebarry

What about the washed Socialists?

originally posted by: TheTory
Even a small minority of 1.6 billion adherents are a lot of people. A majority is even worse.

Not the lack of attention to this post.

The facts seem to betray the propaganda, so lets all look the other way.

Good video.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Jefferton
Also, water is wet.

Pointless thread.

You'd think that, but the way people act on these forums when you say the word "Muslim" makes me greatly doubt that.

You are all about catch words hey.

No wonder you're voting clinton, really. you want the world to collapse as they are planning it.

Why do you think, though, that people are concerned about islam? Because they're slow rednecks with no brain simply following the herd? Or ... you know, maybe the constant mass attacks world wide where they lay their feet?

honest question..

a reply to: savemebarry

Why should I talk seriously to someone who insults me and my opinions before asking a question? How about this? You are wrong and you'll just have to accept that as my opinion.

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: WeRpeons
All religions have been used to justify killings, maiming and torture. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize religion is the catalyst that corrupts and brain washes the mind, the soul, and creates conflicts and wars around the world. Just like the saying "it's the economy stupid", in this case, it's "Duh, it's religion stupid!"

So did atheism, non religion
Stalin, Mao, pol pot

It's people

I don't see people grouped under atheism at events, to support the non bleief in god and act in accordance with a non entities doctrine. I don't see atheists globally unite to strike at the non-ahteists. Useless comparison.

And what does a murderous dictator who maintains power by fear, have to do with an instilled hate justified by a religious belief?

again, useless comparison.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: savemebarry

Why should I talk seriously to someone who insults me and my opinions before asking a question? How about this? You are wrong and you'll just have to accept that as my opinion.

Did I insult you, or just post the facts?

What, where is your first amendment now, you said something, I responded. Now you want to hustle away...

Whatever..

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: savemebarry

What about the washed Socialists?

Never met one. I'm sure they exist somewhere, in statistic land. But they're too busy handing out green left propaganda pamphlets and throwing urine filled water balloons at old people attending political events here.

a reply to: savemebarry

No wonder you're voting clinton, really. you want the world to collapse as they are planning it.

That isn't a fact and is just a derisive opinion, no matter how you try to slice it. You are so sad with your opinions that you cannot even tell when you insult someone who disagrees with you...

a reply to: TerryDon79

A different road from the initial thread, but a far more important road in my opinion. Our indoctrination and conditioning is one of the most significant hinderances to knowing truth(s).

The morality of various religions has been discussed for a long time. Yet, nothing has ever really changed.

Religion is and always has been a device for control. The masses will believe in a fantasy and that fantasy will help create order. The masses can all unite in a fantasy. The masses can all divide in a fantasy.

There will always be that duelality as long as things like religion exist in society. There will always be evil and good christians, muslims ect.. So... I think discussing the morality in religion is rather pointless. Just my opinion though.. Sorry for furthering the derailment of this thread.

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: Tenebris

Completely agree. There's the really nice ones, not so nice ones, neutral ones, bad ones and the extremists.

In other words, there's no such thing as a Muslim.