You know I've kinda grown a real dislike of humans....

Maybe I'm just a bit synical and jaded as I'm over 40 so people get that way as they get older. But I personally to some degree have really grown a dislike for people. Like of course we're all just struggling to make it in this world. But when I think about it, only about 1 in 100 people I meet are genuinely: kind, considerate, happy, loving, joyful, interesting, generous, responsible, fun, normal, decent people. Most are the complete opposite.

Like 99% of them are: egotistical, arrogant, self centered, shallow, greedy, mean, angry, disloyal, and just over all evil.

I mean it's so rare anymore to meet just good hearted people out there. And more often than not even those people can actually turn on a dime. Even those "good" people you have to watch out for, as when they turn, they get really nasty.

I just dont' get it. I guess that's why I like the net in some ways as you can go on a forum and have a bit of a buffer between you and the people you talk to. And I'm not saying I think you'll are that way. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying people I meet in everyday life.

Like it just amazes me. I don't understand it. But then again, I'm not saying I'm perfect either. Far from it. But as least I make a bit of an effort with people I meet, friends, and family to go out of my way for them.

I almost feel like just moving to a small town where no one knows me and just keeping in contact with my good friends. Get rid of everyone else and start fresh. Like try and just make friends with decent people. But honestly I just think to a large degree, from this point on, I'll probably be very content having less people in my life. Like I hardly know anyone who I feel isn't a burden on me. LIke I know 3 people that are not too bad. But those are rare friends. Very rare, and even they have their moments.

But like I'm just talking about normal people you meet on the street. Like take a look at anyone who works in gohv rn ment, any professional, pho-lee- c, etc etc, like you want to see evil at it's finest? Like seriously? They epitomize evil. Like it's unreal. They're not even human. They have no souls at all. They're essencially like flesh eating zombies.

What a scary world we live in, we are living in the walking dead now to some degree it feels like.









Like I just think that if we ever ended up without: food, water, power, gas ... people would freak out. Like people would become total animals. They are now. Wait til they're not getting fed. They'd go nuts.

a reply to: lavatrance

I hear you

a reply to: lavatrance

Oh boy I hear ya...I think courtesy is just not taught to kids growing up but hopefully they will figure it out as time goes on..


I personally still like helping out my fellow humans...lord knows I could use all the good credit I can get

a reply to: lavatrance

I love when primates are being themselves, i usually buy a bowl of popcorn and enjoy the show

But it's like say you're raised to be a good person. Well.... you're screwed. Because you eventually realize you're a good person living in a world of mainly bad. And people are not that civil. And it's very much dog eat dog out there. Like the world seems to have no room for good people. They more often than not just get the short end of the stick and get taken advantage of.

I'm the same in not liking people.

I was lucky and did move to a new town which has family/child hood friends etc the rest was a fresh start not knowing anyone else around this area,,that was 3 years ago and it's pretty good, I know many decent people now.

Maybe you should give it a try it worked for me.

100% feel what you are saying. Its so easy for folks to get caught up in the "rat race" and forget about common courtesy for one another.

a reply to: lavatrance
I was reading a thread within the past few days where members were making excuses for people that resort to physical violence in response to verbal insults... even just perceived insults.
Sad times.

a reply to: lavatrance

“Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

“But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

“I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

a reply to: lavatrance

This 100%. It's such a sad world. You can't just be kind all the time because someone will eventually come along to take something from you. The nice guy at work is solid, works hard, and treats everyone fair, but the nice guy won't ever get that promotion no matter how hard he works. Why? Because a coworker wants that same promotion and is willing to use every tactic at his disposal to bring the nice guy down. Being a decent person all the time requires strength. It's something few people have.

originally posted by: lavatrance
Maybe I'm just a bit synical and jaded as I'm over 40 so people get that way as they get older. But I personally to some degree have really grown a dislike for people. Like of course we're all just struggling to make it in this world. But when I think about it, only about 1 in 100 people I meet are genuinely: kind, considerate, happy, loving, joyful, interesting, generous, responsible, fun, normal, decent people. Most are the complete opposite.

Like 99% of them are: egotistical, arrogant, self centered, shallow, greedy, mean, angry, disloyal, and just over all evil.

I mean it's so rare anymore to meet just good hearted people out there. And more often than not even those people can actually turn on a dime. Even those "good" people you have to watch out for, as when they turn, they get really nasty.

I just dont' get it. I guess that's why I like the net in some ways as you can go on a forum and have a bit of a buffer between you and the people you talk to. And I'm not saying I think you'll are that way. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying people I meet in everyday life.

Like it just amazes me. I don't understand it. But then again, I'm not saying I'm perfect either. Far from it. But as least I make a bit of an effort with people I meet, friends, and family to go out of my way for them.

I almost feel like just moving to a small town where no one knows me and just keeping in contact with my good friends. Get rid of everyone else and start fresh. Like try and just make friends with decent people. But honestly I just think to a large degree, from this point on, I'll probably be very content having less people in my life. Like I hardly know anyone who I feel isn't a burden on me. LIke I know 3 people that are not too bad. But those are rare friends. Very rare, and even they have their moments.

But like I'm just talking about normal people you meet on the street. Like take a look at anyone who works in gohv rn ment, any professional, pho-lee- c, etc etc, like you want to see evil at it's finest? Like seriously? They epitomize evil. Like it's unreal. They're not even human. They have no souls at all. They're essencially like flesh eating zombies.

What a scary world we live in, we are living in the walking dead now to some degree it feels like.

Like I just think that if we ever ended up without: food, water, power, gas ... people would freak out. Like people would become total animals. They are now. Wait til they're not getting fed. They'd go nuts.

I hear you. I've always been a "loner" and some what anti-social. I get really frustrated with inconsiderate people and those who are only looking out for themselves. I realized a long time ago that nice guys do in fact finish last. Seeing how people take advantage of others, etc really just blows my mind.

If I didn't have a family, I'd probably be living out in the middle of nowhere off the grid so I would only have to deal with folks on my terms. Ideally I'd like to live somewhere far enough away that it feels like the middle of nowhere, but close enough to a smaller town /city with basic amenities when I do want some contact.

a reply to: lavatrance

Dear Lavatrance

Other people ..CAN.. be seen in this way. Especially when our lives reach a point when we begin to understand some of the illusions of this world. The illusions of 'fuzzy bunnies' and other childhood hopes that are instilled in us from early on. When we crack that pretty egg the Easter bunny left us we see how really messed up we humans can be. I say this because I have seen things this way too. But, I say,,,'have'.
I'm hoping you understand that this perspective can be poisonous to you. I think you do from your opening sentence. Maybe you are just cynical and jaded as you say. But from my experience it is not just that, but that you have indeed been moving through the fuzzy bunny stage of life and are coming to realize that this life is not as simple as we have been lead to believe.

The phase you describe now can be dangerous. It can sever you from others to an extent that you might never have friends again. It bears the hallmarks of an existential perspective that can toss a person into a hole of separation from others that is impossible to climb out of.

You say that you are not perfect. I know you are not and neither am I. And neither are they. I think that somehow we are all going through changes as our society and the world seem to be changing around us and the weak underbelly of human fallibility is demonstrating itself to many of us in different ways and to different degrees.

You say you are over 40. The reason I am even replying to you is because I have been where I think you are now and have felt about other people as you have described above.

Take your post and remove it from the 'general chit chat' category in your mind and move it to the mind category of 'rant'. Understand it as a momentary explosion of realization that comes from "an imperfect" place (But then again, I'm not saying I'm perfect either. Far from it.) and need not be a final understanding of humanity.

Again, you probably already understand these things. I just wanted to toss in my two cents worth in case you let that perspective go on to long as I did. Believe me, it can be hard to climb out of.

originally posted by: lavatrance

Like 99% of them are: egotistical, arrogant, self centered, shallow, greedy, mean, angry, disloyal, and just over all evil.

Sounds like you just described Hilary Clinton!

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: lavatrance

I think that somehow we are all going through changes as our society and the world seem to be changing around us and the weak underbelly of human fallibility is demonstrating itself to many of us in different ways and to different degrees.

Agreed...as the world changes, 'survival of the fittest' kicks in...not so much survival of the happiest

a reply to: lavatrance

I'm right there with ya, brother. Been there for quite a while now.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

My policy
Be polite , be friendly , trust no one : the false smiles hides the knives theyre waiting to stick in your back .

Rely on no one - anytime time you need help theyll always either be nowhere to be found or have a dozen excuses why they cant help . You want something done its best to do it yourself rather than rely on others .

Things like honour , honesty , courtesy and compassion are dead in todays world .

Prefer to have nothing to do with people anymore been stabbed in back by them far too many times . Let the world burn as its not worth saving .

a reply to: lavatrance

Off topic, I guess this is, but not really. After watching some of these, I really wonder about the mentality and emotionality of a person that would collect such videos and put them on ATS to, evidently, in their mind, prove a point.

a reply to: lavatrance

If someone gets angry at you, they are trying to get an angry response back, trying to drag you down to their level. Once they do their anger is justified, in their own mind everyone's just like them so its okay to be angry.

Anger transfers around like that form person to person, spreading hell on earth. Disrupt the chain, don't respond angrily, don't feed the growing storm.

Just be you, let them be them. Can't change nobody.

The boss yells at the husband who comes home and yells at the wife that yells at the kids, who kick the dog that chases the cat that catches the mouse that eats the cheese…

I've been off ATS and logged in for a moment because I needed an ATS fix. The other thread I was reading left me with the thought that you can do something for yourself and help one person or you can do something for another and help two people. So, feeling greedy, I clicked on your thread and now find myself wincing and chuckling.

If and when you can, be the change you want to see. Be a catalyst for good. The guy next to you may feel the same. Or you can allow yourself to become jaded and risk becoming them. Those are the choices.

When we met our first client from hell, I wanted to close our business. A lawyer told me that 1 in 100 clients would be clients from hell and I should expect that and not take it personally. That worked like a charm until we had 3,000 clients and I found myself dealing 24/7 with 30 clients from hell!

Trust me, I hear you too. You're preaching to the ATS choir here, lol. You bring up a huge problem with no solution because no one wants to try to lift the burden alone, but what happens when that formula of yours becomes not 1 in 100 people are good, but 0 of 100? You can make that crucial difference...or not. But I've seen some of your threads so I will consider this some steam letting and wonder if we could maybe create a giant virtual pipe organ and make a new sound that gets some attention and allows some much needed smiles.



Fishy:

a reply to: lavatrance

I'm just curious, but would you say you have these characteristics? If you do, and apparently you do; do these characteristics such as "fun" "happy" "considerate", come in waves for you, or moods? Or are you the great wonder of mankind who consistently stays that way?

kind, considerate, happy, loving, joyful, interesting, generous, responsible, fun, normal, decent people. Most are the complete opposite.

Are those the characteristics in a person that makes them likeable to you? Or, is that how you judge people?
Apparently. How can you judge people based on these characteristics when you've no idea what their lives have been like? People are the way they are because: Reasons.