Orlando shooting survivor says he held door shut, trapping victims inside.

Curiouser and curiouser:

Yet another eyewitness to the massacre has come forward to describe the events for ABC News’ 20/20 — and his detailed account could be critical. After Mateen collected the hostages’ phones, according to the witness, he called either law enforcement or a news station and said, “America needs to stop bombing ISIS … in Syria.”

“Then he called somebody else that he knew,” the man recalled, “and he mentioned that he was the fourth shooter, and there was [sic] three others, and mentioned, I believe a female name, that was playing dead and she has a bombing vest and he has one, too. And then he said there was three snipers out there waiting for cops to come so the snipers would shoot at the cops.”

Could his wife have been the female with a vest?

ETA: Source

There are a couple videos of a firefight outside the club... was that the snipers engaging the police as they arrived?

This is crazy. I just looked up another victim being featured all over the news today: Patience Carter....

...She's an actress, too.

Patience Carter, Backstage, NY

Daily Mail -- Patience Carter, Orlando victim

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
Daily Mail -- Patience Carter, Orlando victim

Once they reached the safety outside, they realized that Parker didn't make it out of the building so they decided to risk both of their lives and reenter the club.

Really??? That doesn't even seem possible (with firefights between cops at the door and the shooter(s) inside, not to mention the guy blocking the other door)... but even if they could, they really thought that was a good idea?

SMH.

a reply to: Boadicea

Her story is just plain weird.

"During a press conference on Tuesday at Florida Hospital Orlando, Carter recalled her memories of the shooting, read a poem about her survivor's guilt and revealed previously unreported details about how the gunman - including the fact that he promised not to shoot any black people because they had 'suffered enough'."

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I just saw something interesting... Remember your thread on Pia? There's a connection with the G4S Security firm. Check out this OP:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

ETA: Nevermind. The thread was pulled.

a reply to: Boadicea

It's coming up for me. What connection did you see?

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Just the creepy men in black with the ATS logo above their heads. The address bar shows it 404'd: http: // www.abovetopsecret.com / 404.html

I'm glad you can see it. I wanted to read the article from Spy in its entirety I'll have to hunt it up now!

a reply to: Boadicea

See if my link works for you: G4S thread

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Nope. Same creepy guys.

You must have clicked on it in the nick of time!

a reply to: Boadicea

But it's still there now for me. That is so weird!

ETA: I mean the thread comes up now, still, when I click on the link.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

This is so weird. I just checked the new topics page and found it and that link worked for me... but the ones you and I posted here still give me the creepy guys. WTH?

a reply to: Boadicea

As long as you got to it again! Fill me in on what you were connecting though, I am very interested in that thread.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Will do... but hubby just got home so I'm cooking dinner... so give me a little while

a reply to: Boadicea

Sounds good!

I just watched a video on Facebook where someone dissected some news footage of people carrying wounded people down the street in Orlando.
The thing is, the people were being carried TOWARDS the Pulse night club!
The person showed landmarks on Google Street view and matched them up with the news video.

Any projectile that the rifle reportedly used would not be anything close to that. The entire cartridge most likely would not be as big as that. Everything about this cowards story has holes in it. Bad pun. I'm keeping it.

a reply to: gladtobehere

It looks like he is looking down and scrolling through a phone or other mobile device....

reading.

This is looking more and more suspicious as time goes on. We will get to the bottom of it.

My guess? Actual shooting took place by a government sponsored patsy. Nothing else explains the three hour wait time. Everyone knew it was happening. It's Oklahoma all over again.

Ok, throw out the "oh he is an actor or she is an actor" Orlando has a modeling and acting industry here. I even have two talent agents. If this were to happen in LA would you be surprised if there was aspiring actors involved? Google talent agents in orlando. I heard from a source that is friends with a past worker that has been involved in the investigation, the door was jammed with a device(too be honest I can't remember the name, I was working the night shift and trying to finish the last ten minutes of prison break). His friend lost 26 friends. I won't say his position while working there. There is security camera footage. He explained to me, it's the same quality as the ones we have at the theme park I work at. Crystal clear. My best friend was on scene as a firefighter paramedic There. He was stagging around the corner.

The club sits in between the level one trauma center and OFD station 5. I have not seen this video you speak off where people were going towards the club. Patrons were showing up at station 5 banging on the bay doors when it began. I would say 99% of the patrons that go there, not talking about the people from out of town. Know where the hospital is. You can't miss it. So I would believe most people thought to take the victims there. So maybe they pass by the club. The others might have seen the triage being done at station 5 and went there, passing the club. Also I heard the cops were taking people across the street to Wendy's I think.

I live in orlando. If you haven't guessed it.

originally posted by: butcherguy
I just watched a video on Facebook where someone dissected some news footage of people carrying wounded people down the street in Orlando.

The thing is, the people were being carried TOWARDS the Pulse night club!

The person showed landmarks on Google Street view and matched them up with the news video.

Here you go



Also, interesting snippents from a blog written in February:

So if Obama is to be successful in his 2nd term then he needs gun-control legislation with teeth. And that means he needs a problem-reaction-solution. And that means they must create a false-flag event. A BIG event. Mass casualties. Real casualties. Shock and Awe...

...Since I am convinced that the Obama administration has got one more BIG event in the works then I’m going to get out in front of it. My purpose is not to predict the event, but to prevent it. At the very least to expose it ‘pre’ event to such a degree that they will have to modify it and hence limit its effectiveness or use this article as PROOF when it does occur that it is a planned false-flag event. So this is my calling out of the plans and intentions of the criminals in charge of the US Govt...

...Objective – the primary objective, or ‘solution’, is gun legislation similar to the Australian semi-auto ban. This is proving difficult in gun friendly USA. So they have adjusted their plans and will be pushing to implement the ‘No Fly List’ gun ban...

...Event Type – no decision here, has to be a mass shooting. Will need to include semi-auto rifles, with the now ubiquitous AR, and semi-auto handguns. Which manufacturer or caliber is unimportant. Just needs to be black and semi-auto...

...Date/Time – this event has to happen before the Nov elections. And there also needs to be time to write/introduce/vote/pass the legislation, again before the election. So this puts the time window in the early summer, June/July...

...The less knowing participants the better. Most participants therefor will be unknowing-unwilling real victims. Participants will be the actual shooters. There will be more than one, but the official narrative will be one...

...Official Narrative – the Press will be selling the anti-government narrative, and in particular pushing for the No-Fly List gun ban. So they’ll use words like ‘extremist’, ‘domestic terrorist’, ‘anti-government’. Possibly also label a prepper. Loner, volatile, unstable. There should be some tie-in to why this guy should have been on the No Fly list...

hsource

a reply to: gladtobehere

Not to mention, if you thought the shooter was on the other side of the door bullets would go through the door. There is a big difference between cover and concealment. This giy is a moron. Hope he feels guilty about what he did.