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originally posted by: GBP/JPY
precisamundo......Christian prophecy expert here......agreed....I died once at D F W airport....as a ramp agent.....I saw the sim......perfectly peaceful....but I wasn't even hurt or remotely interested about that tug and 6 baggage cars piled up against the pylon.....what I saw was the frozen view of the baggage car inside corner.....after the loud bang.....that view was frozen there for an apparent 3 seconds....very peaceful 3 seconds.....then I was just standing.....not even interested.... ....I saw the sim....it was frozen for just a bit
originally posted by: nOraKat
Why a computer simulation?
How about 'mind'.
The experience is real enough.
originally posted by: anotherdaytoday
originally posted by: nOraKat
Why a computer simulation?
How about 'mind'.
The experience is real enough.
When reading Near-Death-Experiences I also come to the assumption we are part of a bigger "mind" (a god or so). But it's certainly possible to create this world or universe in a computer simulation (maybe a quantum computer where everything is possible, even magic). Very difficult to say if either of these explanations is real or fiction...
originally posted by: Apollumi
No, I tried something that is very hard. I had no sensory deprivation tank to test my theory so every night before I went to sleep I "dodged" thought and tried to dodge my senses. I know that sounds weird. But for a while there I was having very lucid dreams. Some of them were even coming true.
originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
a reply to: LenatasataneL
Maybe not even then.
What if our expectations of god, death and life-after-death play as large a role in what happens to our souls after we die as the Tibetans, ancient Egyptians and others believed?
These cultures believed that death was something you spent a long time prepping for, and that others, left behind you in the land of the living also had duties and responsibilities to perform if a newly dead persons spirit was to rise correctly, beyond the wub.
What if people who believe in nothing, get nothing, while those who believe in reincarnation and karma are immediately weighed and sent back? What if the Christians get their pearly-gates and final judgement, and the Muslims get their garden of earthly delights + 73 virgins?
And what if all of them are horribly wrong, and the illusions of those particular afterlife's are just the bait on a very long line?
If you wait until you are dead before you train your "spirit" to resist easy answers and avoid false promises, it will probably be too late. Than what?
I have no idea what to believe, but I do believe I shall be keeping my heart open and my "eyes" pealed, just in case.
originally posted by: GreenRiver
Very interesting to say the least.
I also did this many times "dodging" thought when I went to sleep.It is like you described it "dodging" not like emptying your mind.(I hope it makes sense).
Everytime I did this I got two kinds of dreams.
1.Lucid dreams almost like being awake, seeing and hearing everything very clear.
They were weird dreams but also something, a little event happened very detailed that I would actually see or experience a day or a couple of days after.(not significant events or at least I didn't see them as significant).
Not like Deja-vu..but exactly like it happened in the dream.It's so strange you cannot explain it in words.."omg I actually dreamed this".
I know how weird it sounds but the "wake up" voice..I heard it too maybe 3 or 4 times.If it wasn't the voice waking me up it was a bell or a ringing sound sometimes.
2.The dreams when I know I'm dreaming and once I realise I am in control I start doing everything I want..almost all the times it's flying around(and by flying I mean like a bird or something,not in a plane or any machine).
Another weird thing is that these dreams where I control everything is that they seem like let's say a TV show..episode 1,episode 2, etc. because I remember the previous one and the others too and it seems like I am continuing it..I get better at doing eveything.
More weird is that I can also wake up whenever I want..usually some thing or things bad happen(trying to stop me from doing whatever I want) and that's when I decide to wake up.
originally posted by: Baddogma
There are billions of stories of seeing behind one of the likely infinite curtains at death or during peak experiences... my own father died for ten minutes before his final death and reported it was like waking up from a dream to a hyper reality. He couldn't emphasize enough how drab this reality seemed in comparison.
My other family members opined that he just freaked from the drugs they gave him in ICU, and I can't say it wasn't just that, though they didn't talk about it with him for most of a night, either.
He mentioned that it is (paraphrased after almost 30 years) "no wonder not many come back here and visit loved ones, as it is like you awake from a dream, and do you want to inform your dream characters that you are okay once awake?"
He also mentioned a totality of awareness, or god, that was the universe and was torus shaped and ever exploding- enfolding, and he had a low opinion of organized religion and really expected nothing but a nice absence of consciousness.
originally posted by: frenchfries
simulation Yes , but not done by a computer. Is simulation of an higher order reality.