Clinton: '[Trump] could bankrupt America like he's bankrupted his companies'

There are different numbers for his net worth all over, depending where you look.

The differences come because much of his wealth is tied up in real estate, which is a relative thing. There are different valuations assigned to real estate, which fluctuate regularly.

The different sources are trying to come up with their own "guesses" by trying to hunt through documentation from all kinds of sources, and trying to do their own calculations. This is flawed reasoning. Those making the guesses and estimates have no idea, and do not have all of the information to come up with an accurate calculation.

Unless you are Trump's accountant, there is no way to "guess" accurately with public information, so this is a witch hunt.


ETA: a reply to: Indigo5

originally posted by: matafuchs
Here are your two choices

Trump - A business who can 'recover' from bankruptcy and make his fortune again. He trims, tariffs and cuts taxes. It is not overnight but if needed it can happen. No ties to special interests.

The root of what money Trump has is from being gifted at one thing...exploiting bankruptcy laws to screw over creditors to his advantage..Loot and run when business fail..

The issue with his taking that skill to the Whitehouse...like when he proposed negotiating pennies on the dollar for treasury bonds and printing more money as a solution to the nations debt...is that WE THE PEOPLE are the creditors..

a reply to: Indigo5

Geez. He only had 4 bankruptcies out of hundreds of business ventures.

That is hardly using bankruptcy as the basis to make a fortune.

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: Indigo5

Geez. He only had 4 bankruptcies out of hundreds of business ventures.

That is hardly using bankruptcy as the basis to make a fortune.

Are you lying or confused?

Trump Steaks, Trump Travel, Trump Airlines, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump Board Game, Trump Magazine, Trump University, Trump Ice Water, Tour De Trump, The Trump network (Vitamin Pyramid Scheme), Trump New Media...and that's all before you even get to his 4 bankruptcies in casinos...how the hell do you fail at running a casino? Four times?

Can you please list his successes?...or his 100's of business ventures? Sure he owns some golf courses and real estate with mixed returns..

But hundreds of business ventures?? Cuz as far as I can tell...apart from inheritance and real estate...everything he has tried has been complete crap.

originally posted by: ZeussusZ
a reply to: Profusion

The USA is already bankrupt.
18 trillion and counting with no plan to pay it back.

You forgot to mention the largest portion of that has been at the behest of Democrats.

Actually lets look at the OP...Trump will bankrupt? Uh, we are bankrupt. Not even sure where the argument here is. No one in their right mind would want to take this on. The choice should be who is better suited to move the country forward and OUT of a 20 trillion dollar debt. It is a black and white choice....

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: Indigo5

Geez. He only had 4 bankruptcies out of hundreds of business ventures.

That is hardly using bankruptcy as the basis to make a fortune.

I know. To hear the left crow about it, you'd think he's had 50 bankruptcies. He has never filed for personal bankruptcy, ony four times to renegotiate debt.

In 1991, 1992, 2004, and again in 2009, Trump branded companies or properties have sought Chapter 11 protection.

abcnews.go.com...

4 bankruptcies out of 515 ventures. I'll take that success rate.

The Trump Organization has interests in real estate development, investing, brokerage, sales and marketing, and property management. The company owns, operates, invests, and develops residential real estate, hotels, resorts, residential towers, and golf courses in different countries, as well as owning several hundred thousand square feet of prime Manhattan real estate. It lists involvement in 515 subsidiaries and entities with 264 of them bearing Trump's name and another 54 including his initials.

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Profusion

The internet boom has come and gone... Bill won't be revitalizing anything with the economy ever again. Why is that always overlooked?

Lol @ thinking anyone is a better businessman than Trump... Hillary just keeps getting more desperate. She knows this is the end.

originally posted by: UnBreakable
a reply to: Profusion

....and if she puts Bill in charge of the economy like she threatened last week, he could f#ck the economy like he f#cked those other women.

Or screw things like he did anyways.

From the period between 1988 and 1992, the rent for my apartment jumped from 250 to 300 a month. From 1992 through 2000, my rent more than doubled. Gasoline prices tripled and well... work in both the food service industry and building industry was harder to find for one with experience in either; I know- I was there.

The only reason he could claim a "budget surplus" is because the things enacted while he ruled had their costs deferred until after he left office, which would make it look like Bush II screwed the pooch. But so it is with Democrats: pass the buck.

I can say with authority that unions have screwed me- I made more take-home pay working non-union than I did when working under a union, had more job opportunities working non-union and the union did nothing for me when I was unemployed... driving down to the union hall and sitting and waiting to be called up for some assignment only to be told there were none meant I wasted my money on gasoline in the truck for no reason. Thank you IBEW!

Posting my resume' on monster had me turning away job offers.

But in the end, maybe the US declaring bankruptcy won't be a bad thing for us. That would cause us to turn inwards and stabilize things here before we could ever hope to fix the rest of the world, which would fall simply due to losing the largest single consumer of goods and products from everywhere.

It's nigh time to normalize currency values around the world. This would be the catalyst to achieve that.

originally posted by: netbound


Vote Trump - Make America HATE Again!

Is that in reference to all the Bernie supporters or something? It's so ironic seeing the same people that are trying to silence Trump's free speech, because they hate him, change his motto to "Make America Hate Again."

Hollywood's very own retards couldn't make that over-hypocritical douchebaggery story line up if they tried...

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Profusion

Lol @ thinking anyone is a better businessman than Trump...

A New York judge ruled Tuesday that a fraud lawsuit brought by the New York attorney general against Donald Trump and his real estate school will go to trial, setting up a potentially unprecedented situation that could feature the Republican presidential front-runner taking the stand.

www.wsj.com...

Not to mention the brewing scandal around his Veteran Fundraiser...

He is a con artist, plain and simple.

a reply to: BlueAjah

Doesn't matter. We're talking about a guy that the haters think hates blacks because his father was arrested in 1928 after police mistook him for a KKK brawler...

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Profusion

Lol @ thinking anyone is a better businessman than Trump...

A New York judge ruled Tuesday that a fraud lawsuit brought by the New York attorney general against Donald Trump and his real estate school will go to trial, setting up a potentially unprecedented situation that could feature the Republican presidential front-runner taking the stand.

www.wsj.com...

Not to mention the brewing scandal around his Veteran Fundraiser...

He is a con artist, plain and simple.

...........and Hillary is the bastion of honesty.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Profusion

Lol @ thinking anyone is a better businessman than Trump...

A New York judge ruled Tuesday that a fraud lawsuit brought by the New York attorney general against Donald Trump and his real estate school will go to trial, setting up a potentially unprecedented situation that could feature the Republican presidential front-runner taking the stand.

www.wsj.com...

Not to mention the brewing scandal around his Veteran Fundraiser...

He is a con artist, plain and simple.

...........and Hillary is the bastion of honesty.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: Indigo5

Geez. He only had 4 bankruptcies out of hundreds of business ventures.

That is hardly using bankruptcy as the basis to make a fortune.

Are you lying or confused?

Trump Steaks, Trump Travel, Trump Airlines, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, Trump Board Game, Trump Magazine, Trump University, Trump Ice Water, Tour De Trump, The Trump network (Vitamin Pyramid Scheme), Trump New Media...and that's all before you even get to his 4 bankruptcies in casinos...how the hell do you fail at running a casino? Four times?

Can you please list his successes?...or his 100's of business ventures? Sure he owns some golf courses and real estate with mixed returns..

But hundreds of business ventures?? Cuz as far as I can tell...apart from inheritance and real estate...everything he has tried has been complete crap.

As opposed to his four failures that you think disqualifies him...



And here's the link so you can see it more clearly.

i.imgur.com...

a reply to: Indigo5

A civil case but the criminal case is done. Nothing wrong was done at Trump U.


Veteran Fundraiser scandal?

Saved NY Veterans Day Parade www.nytimes.com...

he holiday resurged again after World War II, only to fade as the veterans died, retired or moved. By the 1980's, fewer than 2,000 veterans were marching in the parades. Only in the last three years has participation grown again, as Vietnam veterans have become more active. Nonetheless, from the beginning, this year's organizers have skated on thin financial ice, government approvals have been slow and lining up things like Sherman tanks and marching bands has been difficult. "There has been a constant awareness everything could fall apart at any time," Mr. Fox said. Organizers received no contributions from the 200 corporations they asked, among them military contractors to whom they presented documentation of profits made on weapons used in World War II. "Zippo, dada, zilch," Mr. Fox said. "Nothing from Northrup, United Technologies, none of them. To me, it's a sin."

Trump flies home vets. Snopes says it is a lie but there is a picture of a Trump Shuttle jet

Trump flies home and gives money to vet in Mexico - Remember the Marine? Yup, helped him too.

a reply to: Indigo5

Looks like a witch hunt to me.

originally posted by: BlueAjah
There are different numbers for his net worth all over, depending where you look.

The differences come because much of his wealth is tied up in real estate, which is a relative thing. There are different valuations assigned to real estate, which fluctuate regularly.

The different sources are trying to come up with their own "guesses" by trying to hunt through documentation from all kinds of sources, and trying to do their own calculations. This is flawed reasoning. Those making the guesses and estimates have no idea, and do not have all of the information to come up with an accurate calculation.

Unless you are Trump's accountant, there is no way to "guess" accurately with public information, so this is a witch hunt.


ETA: a reply to: Indigo5

no, this is NOT a witch hunt...he has no political experience what so ever...so ALL of his business dealings are fair game. and his tax returns should have already been made public....the fact that they are not, means he has something to hide

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Indigo5

Looks like a witch hunt to me.

so what?......call it anything you want, I want to know how this guy handles his money, along with his business dealings, since this is the ONLY thing we have to go on....he hasn't even been elected to a city council seat, and yet you think he is qualified to be the next president of the United States?

a reply to: jimmyx

He has more than 4 times the executive experience of the current sitting POTUS. A junior senator is not executive experience nor is running a community outreach program. When people try to question Trumps business experience it is like saying Bo Jackson could not play sports.