UFO’s and EBE’s. Dulce Base or The San Luis Valley?

I’ve been trying to organize a return to Dulce since my last visit www.abovetopsecret.com... .
I’m stationed here a Kirtland AFB (Albuquerque NM), and I’ve heard some interesting stories all around this region.
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I finally have some time off and some of base personnel are interested in coming along. Of course, a few are skeptical but most share the opinion (privately) that something is out there. I have the usual Giger counter, electro-magnetic detection and thermal imagining equipment, along with Sony video and still photography gear. Please don’t ask what type of fire power we are bringing. But I do want more bang for the buck. Which location do you think we will see something, Dulce or The San Luis Valley (or where in the valley).

a reply to: Violater1

I've been to both places many times as a flyfishing guide and gambler at the casinos. The valley is where my whole concept of reality changed. High Strangeness in Salida, Crestone and Antonito. Great fishing up on the Ark. ri. as well. Activity in the Valley seems to have died down according to my friends that live in Saguache.

I caught some huge Rainbows in Stone lake at Dulce. But check with the Jicarilla cops before you go snooping around. Especially with pistolas. Honestly the Apaches are tired of all the "researchers" I wouldn't bother going there....just asking for trouble.

I've been having some strange experiences up in the 4 corners, on the San Juan.

a reply to: olaru12

I've been having some strange experiences up in the 4 corners, on the San Juan.

Ahh come on ,Don't leave us hanging.

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: olaru12

I've been having some strange experiences up in the 4 corners, on the San Juan.

Ahh come on ,Don't leave us hanging.

Skinwalkers along 160 or kids in very strange costumes. Lights in the sky and green one's along the fence line. And some things that are just to private to discuss on a public forum.

a reply to: Violater1

Just wondering😊
If you're in the Airforce, why risk getting in trouble. Or why not ask the Brass? They must have connections to Farmington NM? (ANG).

I'm a big fan of the Dulce Papers. Waiting for Steve Spielberg to do a film on it.

All I ask is.... Document Everything😉
I hope you get a good trip going. I haven't seen you around in some time. Glad to see you again.😊

Air Force leadership has zero need to know about any of this unless they are down with it.

I was Red Horse myself up in Malmstrom but never really saw anything odd while there apart from the odd montuffalo gal.

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: olaru12

I've been having some strange experiences up in the 4 corners, on the San Juan.

Ahh come on ,Don't leave us hanging.

Yes, exactly my sentiments too!

a reply to: olaru12

That just leaves me begging to know more. Come on, we're all friends here.

" And some things that are just to private to discuss on a public forum."

Can't we just respect Olaru12 and let it go?

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Violater1

I've been to both places many times as a flyfishing guide and gambler at the casinos. The valley is where my whole concept of reality changed. High Strangeness in Salida, Crestone and Antonito. Great fishing up on the Ark. ri. as well. Activity in the Valley seems to have died down according to my friends that live in Saguache.

I caught some huge Rainbows in Stone lake at Dulce. But check with the Jicarilla cops before you go snooping around. Especially with pistolas. Honestly the Apaches are tired of all the "researchers" I wouldn't bother going there....just asking for trouble.

I've been having some strange experiences up in the 4 corners, on the San Juan.

Are you familiar with the disappearing silver cargo plane near Crestone?
I personally interviewed New Mexico State Trooper Cordova. His family had about a dozen head of cattle mutilated just north of Taos. NM trooper Gabe Valdez (RIP) actually called him to assist in the Dulce mutilations. I also interviewed Lt Martinez (ret) of the Taos County Sheriff Department. His story of assisting a fellow Deputy out on the mesa involved a jack-knifed semi and little gray dudes running around the semi.

originally posted by: Night Star
a reply to: olaru12

That just leaves me begging to know more. Come on, we're all friends here.

I know this will seem like a tease but if i discussed the details, I would be banned....


It involved sex, drugs and perhaps cult activity. The rabbit hole is at times very seductive....and dangerous.

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Violater1

I've been to both places many times as a flyfishing guide and gambler at the casinos. The valley is where my whole concept of reality changed. High Strangeness in Salida, Crestone and Antonito. Great fishing up on the Ark. ri. as well. Activity in the Valley seems to have died down according to my friends that live in Saguache.

I caught some huge Rainbows in Stone lake at Dulce. But check with the Jicarilla cops before you go snooping around. Especially with pistolas. Honestly the Apaches are tired of all the "researchers" I wouldn't bother going there....just asking for trouble.

I've been having some strange experiences up in the 4 corners, on the San Juan.

Are you familiar with the disappearing silver cargo plane near Crestone?
I personally interviewed New Mexico State Trooper Cordova. His family had about a dozen head of cattle mutilated just north of Taos. NM trooper Gabe Valdez (RIP) actually called him to assist in the Dulce mutilations. I also interviewed Lt Martinez (ret) of the Taos County Sheriff Department. His story of assisting a fellow Deputy out on the mesa involved a jack-knifed semi and little gray dudes running around the semi.

Not familiar at all...sounds intriguing! I have heard of jets and ufos flying into the sides of mountains and disappearing.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Night Star
a reply to: olaru12

That just leaves me begging to know more. Come on, we're all friends here.

I know this will seem like a tease but if i discussed the details, I would be banned....


It involved sex, drugs and perhaps cult activity. The rabbit hole is at times very seductive....and dangerous.

Now u are messing with us.



Come on spill the beans in the above top secret thread.

I think u can discuss all those things on the board as long as you dont spefically say the drugs and use may or may not of used ?

As to the OP, sounds like a fun trip and thanks for the willingness to share

a reply to: olaru12

It involved sex, drugs and perhaps cult activity.

Wait! What? Can you see me?

originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: Violater1

Just wondering😊
If you're in the Airforce, why risk getting in trouble. Or why not ask the Brass? They must have connections to Farmington NM? (ANG).

I'm a big fan of the Dulce Papers. Waiting for Steve Spielberg to do a film on it.

All I ask is.... Document Everything😉
I hope you get a good trip going. I haven't seen you around in some time. Glad to see you again.😊

Thank you for the kind words. Things have been busy. Pilots, Airmen, and parts are in very high demand.
This little vacation will be nice. Still undecided on where to go.
Gen. Cotton, Gen. Rand and Col. Froehlich are great leaders, but we prefer to not bother them with our excursion plans.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Violater1

I've been to both places many times as a flyfishing guide and gambler at the casinos. The valley is where my whole concept of reality changed. High Strangeness in Salida, Crestone and Antonito. Great fishing up on the Ark. ri. as well. Activity in the Valley seems to have died down according to my friends that live in Saguache.

I caught some huge Rainbows in Stone lake at Dulce. But check with the Jicarilla cops before you go snooping around. Especially with pistolas. Honestly the Apaches are tired of all the "researchers" I wouldn't bother going there....just asking for trouble.

I've been having some strange experiences up in the 4 corners, on the San Juan.

OK, found this guy on u-tube. He's from Crestone. This is the guy that talks about a silver transport plane that frequently disappears above the San Luis Valley near Crestone.

What have you seen and where did you see it?

a reply to: Violater1

The incident that shook my reality foundations was meeting a Hispanic family at a 7/11 in Antonito, that claimed to know me and knew some of the most intimate details of my life that were known only to my wife at the time. I had never seen these people before ever. Then followed by an old bell helicopter back to the NM state line. And the ordinary UFOs, fireballs, Cryptids, time distortions, religious visions, etc. mostly south of Saquach headed down 285. Strange vibes in the west as well around Creed to the Conjeos. I haven't been up there in over 2 years.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Violater1

The incident that shook my reality foundations was meeting a Hispanic family at a 7/11 in Antonito, that claimed to know me and knew some of the most intimate details of my life that were known only to my wife at the time. I had never seen these people before ever. Then followed by an old bell helicopter back to the NM state line. And the ordinary UFOs, fireballs, Cryptids, time distortions, religious visions, etc. mostly south of Saquach headed down 285. Strange vibes in the west as well around Creed to the Conjeos. I haven't been up there in over 2 years.

Thank you for the info. I googed Antonito and found this photo right of the bat. WTF?? Is it safe to even go there?

WOW, appears to be a lot of drug dealing




We'll pass on Antonito.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Violater1

The incident that shook my reality foundations was meeting a Hispanic family at a 7/11 in Antonito, that claimed to know me and knew some of the most intimate details of my life that were known only to my wife at the time. I had never seen these people before ever. Then followed by an old bell helicopter back to the NM state line. And the ordinary UFOs, fireballs, Cryptids, time distortions, religious visions, etc. mostly south of Saquach headed down 285. Strange vibes in the west as well around Creed to the Conjeos. I haven't been up there in over 2 years.

You mentioned a jet disappearing into a mountain previously and the Cryptids. Where did you see these?

I know it's just a trick of the eye, but doesn't this look like a giant dude? BTW, this is the road leading down to the Redding Ranch.
www.google.com...@37.0278828,-107.0294807,252m/d ata=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e4?hl=en

37.0278828,-107.0294807