Ok, I was trying to have a quiet, civil chat about Jacques Vallee, the Control Loop, etc. but various of my friends want me to discuss the very bottom
of the Rabbit Hole (where the Mad Hatter lives).
That post is here:
KPB's Friendly Chat about Jacques Vallee, "The Control Loop" and other
Well by the time that Flaming Ferret Wench was asking me about "Reptilians", and some of my friends were just wishing that I'd "let loose" and be
totally crazy, I saw that I might as well start a new thread to sate their rabid, crazed appetites, so that maybe I could focus on Jacques Vallee more
in the above thread.
I make no promises for this thread.. I don't REALLY want to "cut loose", as I lived in the very bottom of the bunny hole for quite a few years,
more crazed than "interesting", and I have no desire to go back there.
I've mentioned this many times, but people tend to go permanently "loopy" once they see something they think is undeniably "paranormal", even if
it is in fact, NOT "paranormal" and in fact might even be a complete misidentifidation.
As I see it, humans tend to hunger for "true knowledge"; however we live in a very gray world, where even photons can't manage to behave
themselves, or at least that is what many people think ("quantum weirdness you know" - which has been turned into a religion by many).
Humans evolved to be "answer-finding machines", as the ones who didn't have access to usable answers to life's problems, tended not to survive and
leave behind little ankle biters (offspring).
So either a person had to be a bright/clever person, or have the good sense to hang around a bright/clever person (maybe a shaman or other tribal
But being "clever" and being able to "get answers" is hard work.. so that's why we have winded up with a lot of sheep-people, who wait around
like little baby birds, hoping that someone "with the answers" will "feed them".
On top of this tendency, the "religion instinct" got evolved into us. There was a long time, where it made sense to bond with others, even if the
bonding-methodology was plum crazy (aka "religion").
That people were bonding was more important, than what they were bonding over. In dangerous environments, people who bond through "mutual craziness"
will do better survival-wise, than those who don't have such a bonding and "angst reduction" mechanism. This is one of the reasons that "god"
evolved into our brains.. having a magical answer man built into us, (or so we believe) keeps us from going into infinite brain loops, when we can't
figure something out... we can just say "God musta done it!" as a final algorithm deep in our brains----even atheists probably have this circuit of
last resort built into them. I'm not even saying that "God" exists.. that's beyond my pay grade.. it's beyond all our pay grades to know whether
"God" exists or not.
(any real "God" could lie to us all they wanted, for whatever reason they wanted.. either letting us believe in them, or keeping us from being able
to perceive them... or maybe humans will always be incapable of that level of perception, whether a "God" exists or not.
But it doesn't matter. It will never matter.
Since we don't know, and we can't know.. (anyone who says they "know" has set too low a standard for verification), it doesn't matter.. but the
BELIEF in a "god" which tied people together and helped them be effective---that was a powerful thing stumbled upon by random evolution.
Of course the rules are changing now.
Larger tribal groups trying to "stuff their version of the God Delusion" down everyone else's throats used to be semi-ok. But now if such a group
gets a Nuke, then the end of the world might be nigh.. not due to their hallucinatory deity, but due to more than 200,000 years of evolution has
backed us into this corner.
We better get past any and ALL hallucinations, and biases, that tell us we should Nuke other groups out of existence and other world-ending habits,
like turning everything into plastic and then throwing it away.. marine life is going to go extinct if we don't stop this retarded habit. Among many
other retarded habits.
I guess I got off on that tangent, to demonstrate how thoroughly I do NOT want to be a "crazy person" with crazy theories, that is part of the
problem and not part of the solution.
I want to be part of the solution.
So I am VERY reluctant to discuss a lot of my "crazy" theories and experiences. I'm just starting to loosen up a little bit.
But don't expect me to go off the deep end. ATS is full of people who do that.. I do not wish to let "the Phenomenon" drive me crazy.. as that is
what "the Phenomenon" (and religon/mysticism/spirituality) tend to do.
But I've definitely run into some very weird stuff that I try to make sense of; so that's why I am interested in sorting it all out.
Maybe the answer is that I need a good shot of Lithium.
But even *if* I'm "crazy", I find value in tossing around POSSIBILITIES to discuss. If you don't turn a particular THEORY into your RELIGION; then
you are relatively safe. At the end of the day, if you can let go every last bit of "crazy" and still manage to be a "good and useful" person who
is good to your friends, family and little animals.. then it was all just good fun.
For all we know, we are all just "brains in jars" and the "lab technicians" are rolling around on the floor, holding their thorasic cavities with
their tentacles, every time one of us uses the phrase "the laws of physics".
Ok, that's my intro to this chat post.
I'll probably start discussing stuff like "Post-Singularity Machine Elves" more in this thread, and less in the other thread.
Have a nice day!