Government Panel Recommends Depression Screening For Adolescents

a reply to: Informer1958

I can see people wanting to do this because they hate freedom and personal liberties.

But it won't be popular.

I wonder, if tested, how many would have negative thoughts towards government?

a reply to: DBCowboy

I wonder, if tested, how many would have negative thoughts towards government?

Many will, when they realize some of their Constitutional rights have been taken away from them. This is about controlling the population as well.

a reply to: Informer1958
It'd be very easy to deceive if anyone even bothered trying I'd think so it shouldn't be a problem for those worried about loss of rights or a totalitarian like system.

a reply to: Informer1958

Can we just impeach him now, preferably retroactively back to 2008, and be done with his nonsense?

a reply to: Informer1958

I thought you didn't want the mentally ill to have access to guns?

such proposals are a depressing thought...

Not shocking coupled with the increasing suicide rates to the bigger push on Big Pharma medicine, etc.

Financial despair, addiction and the rise of suicide in white America

The death rate for white Americans aged 45 to 54 has risen sharply since 1999, but Montana officials wrestle to explain why the state has the highest rate of suicide in the US at nearly twice the national average – and it’s rising

Local wise,

What has changed? Advertisement Karl Rosston, Montana’s suicide prevention coordinator, said there are a number of constants that contribute to a historically high suicide rate throughout the Rocky Mountain region from social isolation to the availability of guns and a reluctance to seek mental health care.

Continued...

These concerns may tie into suicide rates nationally as well,

“Definitely you see a lot of people that all of a sudden they hit 45 or 50 and they don’t see retirement as a bonus. They see something that they’re going to have struggle with and they’re not going to be able to retire.”

Sullivan sees that as tied up with “the expectation that as a middle-aged white person you would outdo your parents economically and socially, and that didn’t occur”.

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As well, as, may have similar intent to aid in bills such as the "Soviet Style Gun Bill" in Oregon.

“We have received a preliminary copy of one of the most dangerous pieces of anti-gun legislation we have ever seen,” Oregon Firearms Federation alerted its members. “This bill eviscerates due process and turns Oregon into a Soviet style collection of secret snitches!

“Basically if someone makes a claim that you are, in their opinion, experiencing a ‘mental health emergency’ you lose your right to buy a firearm,” the alert explained. “Included in the list of people who can make that accusation against you are such mental health ‘experts’ as a college history professor, your boss, or an aunt you have not seen in 20 years!

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a reply to: Tiamat384

It'd be very easy to deceive if anyone even bothered trying I'd think so it shouldn't be a problem for those worried about loss of rights or a totalitarian like system.

The very idea of our government whom had swore an oath to protect the Constitutions, is secretly chipping away at the second Amendment behind closed doors.

I'm working on this thing, it's called "Revolution Therapy"--catalyzing pent up frustration and disempowerment by employing direct action to affect radical social change.

In other words, curing depression by taking it out on the people and institutions responsible for it; using negative emotions constructively, to empower the individual. It's a simple, straightforward approach that would, I believe, work much better than a bottle of pills that's only going to treat symptoms anyway.

I won't tell them about this in my "interview", of course.

a reply to: Leonidas

I thought you didn't want the mentally ill to have access to guns?

I do.

However, I don't think suffering from depression is a form of metal illness. Many good drugs are available that can squash depression and a person can live a normal life.

a reply to: Informer1958
Not to be nit picky, but your replied confused just a little. You started with "The very idea of", but you didn't finish the phrase as it should have been. It is what exactly? I do agree though, we are losing our rights. It is unfortunate, but if you fear to lose them then fight back as a collective.

a reply to: NthOther
It's already on the internet. They're on to you!!

When I read the threads title I immediately thought of Dr. Jeffrey Schaler.

Have listened to his speech OP?

I read somewhere that many believe that it is the best speech about psychiatry ever written.

The 'mentally ill' card is a tool used for political purposes to silence and suppress the masses who openly express beliefs that contradict official dogma...

The diagnosis of mental illness is always a weapon. Mental illness refers to something that a person does; real disease refers to something that a person has. ~ Dr. Jeffrey Schaler

What do you think psychiatrists would do if Jesus were alive today? Or Buddha? Or Mohammed? Ba-da-bing! Right into a mental hospital, injected with drugs to stop their crazy beliefs and speech. Psychiatrists today are the true Grand Inquisitors. They would crucify the holy men and women of yesterday in an instant. Transcript for Video

Psychiatric confinement of sane people is uniformly considered a particularly pernicious form of repression and Soviet punitive psychiatry was one of the key weapons of both illegal and legal repression.

Punitive psychiatry

Following the fall of the Soviet Union, it was often reported that some opposition activists and journalists were detained in Russian psychiatric institutions in order to intimidate and isolate them from society. In modern Russia, human rights activists also face the threat of psychiatric diagnosis as a means of political repression.

US Veterans Forcibly Sequestered in Mental Hospitals

In China today, political dissidents, whistleblowers and government petitioners are being labeled mentally ill, incarcerated in psychiatric wards and subjected to electroshock—a tactic reminiscent of Soviet Russia and the alliance between psychiatry and the police state. This practice is not limited to Russia, China, Cuba or Uzbekistan, all of which currently employ psychiatric incarceration of citizens for political protest.

In the UK, a specialized unit called the Fixated Threat Assessment Centre has been granted the authority to incarcerate anyone who has given inappropriate or threatening communications to a member of government into a psychiatric ward. The assessment teams are made up of police, psychiatrists and psychologists who have been given the authority to evaluate, accuse and detain anyone they consider a threat into a mental facility -- indefinitely.

“Biological psychiatry is a total fraud.” ~ Fred Baughman

Not only is psychology without merit, but psychiatry defrauds the public as well. Medical psychiatrists have been trying for years to validate their biochemical theory of mental illness, but “after decades of research that has yielded not a single definitive biological marker connecting brain dysfunction to mental disorders,” we are letting doctors evaluate and treat us as if such diseases exist.

To put it more loosely, making a diagnosis of mental illness is “a near mindless act where you can speculate whatever you want and never be ‘wrong’ (if any new or unrelated symptoms emerge just add another diagnosis).” In fact, there is not a single scientific study that shows prescription psychotropic drug users suffer from an objective, confirmable abnormality of the brain.

Psychology and Psychiatry: Rotten to the Core

originally posted by: xuenchen
The Obama Administration has entered a new rule in the Federal Register.

It apparently amends some old rule(s) that concern HIPAA privacy.

Now it seems a doctor can report some "mental illnesses" and those reports will be on the FBI firearms background check system used in gun background checks !!

The VA has already been outed, or at least accused of reporting suspect veterans to the ATF and DEA. I used that lousy medical system for 3 years until I turned 65 and qualified for Medicare and applied for a good supplemental insurance plan. I said so long and good riddance never to return again.

a reply to: Murgatroid

I still like this one:



I mean I get both views, in a sense you gotta go with the flow in large social organizations. Inherently it follows that with more people being organized, more layers of order must be imposed to maintain cohesion. I get that the issue is political, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have merit.

Kinda wish the establishment would just get real and be like.. look you're too different and we want to control you... got a problem with that try to stop us...

a reply to: Informer1958
This reminds me of Bloombergs banning of large sodas from fast food restaurants. It's absurd, controlling and tyrannic.

a reply to: Informer1958

The government is coming for our guns and all Americans that are tested and found depressed will be labeled "mentally ill".

Are you implying that depression is NOT a mental illness?

a reply to: Tiamat384

Not to be nit picky, but your replied confused just a little. You started with "The very idea of", but you didn't finish the phrase as it should have been. It is what exactly? I do agree though, we are losing our rights. It is unfortunate, but if you fear to lose them then fight back as a collective.

Sorry about that and you are correct.

The very idea meant Many members of Congress and Obama.

a reply to: roaland
I have stated several times that digitized medical records and Obamacare are the capstone to complete absolute tyranny. They have access to your medical records and they have access to every tidbit of information about anyone and everyone in the nation... Big brother and the Orwellian state has arrived.

a reply to: Informer1958

"Liberals don’t care what you do as long as it’s mandatory"

-Dick Armey