The Worst Presidential Choice in History!

a reply to: SaturnFX

Here's the thing with Sanders, he's the only candidate rallying support from the people. Sander's wants a political revolution where millions of people stand up and take back their government. Anybody of these candidates are going to have a hard time passing anything through a divisive congress.

If Sanders rallies enough support and is honest with the American people, the people of this country may finally rise up and help Sanders pressure congress to pass legislation they feel strongly about. He wants to remove special interest influence and I think the majority of Americans will strongly back him on that. Will it be a huge fight, sure it will. I just think Sanders brings much more sincerity, leadership and respect to the office.

-I think Trump is going to offend a lot of republicans and democrats with his insults. I also think it will definitely affect negotiations with other countries and our allies. Britain's Parliament already debated banning Donald Trump from the U.K..

-Many politicians on both sides of the isle don't take a liking to Cruz. He's proven to be uncompromising and abrasive. He's previously caused a government shut-down.

-Clinton will have most democrats in her corner but many republicans will prevent her from passing anything in the house.

a reply to: mOjOm

"I agree with all negative criticism of the candidates... except when it comes to MY guy."



Seriously though I agree with a lot of the OP's opinions, and this is what I think of the current front runners.

Clinton. Likely to spend the first year in office moving between the White House and the Court House. Reminds me of Cersei from Game of Thrones, a Queen despised by her own people but still holds on to power because of her family connections to the establishment.

Trump. Egomaniac, yes. Loud mouth and uncouth, yes. Fascist leaning, yes but no more then the current and previous POTUS considering they both supported the Patriot Act, NDAA and "enhanced interrogation". Incompetent, I would say no considering he is a successful businessman and self-made billionaire without having family connections or going to any of the privileged elitist fraternity schools. At least he is a straight shooter when it comes to his opinions and isn't afraid to tackle hot button issues.

Cruz. Blatantly lies when it suits his agenda and changes his opinions on major issues depending on which way the wind is blowing. Huge religious buff. Not to mention he sounds like Mayor Quimby from The Simpsons.

Sanders. Socialist, yes. Focuses more on social programs and raising taxes on everyone then major issues like the Middle-East and the crippling debt hanging over the country. At least he isn't considered establishment, denied the Super PAC bribes and isn't bought by special interests.

So in the end... pick your poison.

If it was the peoples choice, it will come down to Sanders vs Trump.

If the establishment gets their pick, it will come down to Clinton vs Cruz.

originally posted by: Willtell

Donald Trump, an incompetent, uncouth, and egomaniacal bully with fascistic leanings. He will be a embarrassing disaster as a president and a danger to the world of untold precedent....And make Obama look like Abraham Lincoln.

Trump may be some of those things. But incompetent he is not.

a reply to: Willtell

I don't know who is going to be president.

What I do know is that regardless who becomes president, the government will get bigger and the people will be on the losing end.

originally posted by: mekhanics
a reply to: Willtell

Sadly, she will be the next POTUS.

You'll see!

It seems whoever attends the Bilderberg meetings wind up being president. (Obama attended in 2007, along with Hillary)

There is a published list of this year's attendees and it's rumored there is a secret list (where people like Hillary secretly attend). Now, Hillary is not on the published list but Jim Messina is. And who is he? Only the closest advisor to the Clintons.

Hmmmm...You could be right about Clinton being the next president.

Ben Carson is intelligent, honest, patriotic and IMO the best candidate of the bunch.

I think a lot of people forget that for a short time he was #1 in the polls, even beating Trump. There is no reason he can't make a comeback.

a reply to: Willtell

Amazing, a nation of far over 300 million people could produce such a flawed group of major candidates.

Well, we don't get to pick who runs.

a reply to: peskyhumans

I think what hurts Carson is being so soft spoken. I like him a lot too.

a reply to: WeRpeons

Are you kidding? Sanders only appeals to college kids, uneducated people, and people looking for free stuff. Once those kids graduate college or quit and get a job, they'll hate Sanders too. He wants to tax the middle class and higher classes more in order to pay for college and healthcare for everyone. WTF would any working man or woman want that? And what do us middle class workers get for paying higher taxes to buy everything else for those who don't work??? We get a slightly lower premium on our healthcare. Whoopty #ing hell no!

originally posted by: LSU0408
Are you kidding? Sanders only appeals to college kids, uneducated people, and people looking for free stuff. Once those kids graduate college or quit and get a job, they'll hate Sanders too.

That's what MSM wants you to believe and you've fallen for it.

Sanders always talks about empowering the middle class at the expense of the super rich and corporations and, considering how much they've been abusing of their power, there's nothing wrong with that.

Clinton's only fans are blind feminists that forget how much she's a manipulative liar, Trump is a total joke only appealing to oblivious racists bigots and every other candidate simply has no chance in hell.

Sanders will probably win but even then, most of his ideas will hit a dead-end in congress because

1- They are bribed
2- They are mostly republicans
3- Republicans always vote against Democrats even when it's a good idea simply because the idea didn't come from them

So many things wrong in government, I wouldn't know where to start other than kicking everyone out and starting anew.

I may be a deluded CTer but it's a loooong way to the election and I'm not ruling out a surprise candidate.

I hope.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Willtell

I don't know who is going to be president.

What I do know is that regardless who becomes president, the government will get bigger and the people will be on the losing end.

If people only concentrated on the actions taken by both sides they would see that clear as day?

Isn't it shocking how the masses say politicians can't be trusted are the scum of the earth and no different than a used car salesman.

Then comes election time and they go into hyper drive about if their party doesn't win all hell will break loose? Despite the same issues that exist today which have existed for over 5 decades at minimum and despite their party having had full control to fix the same issues which they haven't , but by George this is the year.

Once you see through the B# its shocking how people don't view things they don't want to view.

I wonder if this was in reference to the Two parties Republicans and Democrats?

Hillary Clinton is the best choice.
She is a woman.
She is totally honest.
She is supposed to be one of the sweetest people that you could ever meet.

She definitely has my vote!

originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: Willtell

Bernie Sanders, a 73 year old one-dimensional socialist with hardly any concern for major issues other than social programs.

I agree other than with this.

So what if he's 73??

How is he one dimensional???

So what if he's Socialist???

And that last part is just incorrect. He's concerned about much more than just social programs.

I like Bernie Sanders and if I were made God tomorrow I would appoint Bernie until I decide to take over.


Though my analysis is correct he’s one dimensional but that’s alright since his dimension is the one that needs work

a reply to: Willtell

I would agree with you whole heartedly if it wasnt for the fact that Rand Paul is running.

a reply to: LSU0408

All those poll numbers don't just reflect college students. I'm well educated and I'm sure there's a lot more people like me that are supporting Sanders. I like many other Bernie supporters are tired that trillions of tax paying dollars are going toward our military budget and foreign aid. Social programs like Social Security are being robbed of it's funds by our elected representatives.

Free stuff? Really, those same people who are getting free stuff also pay taxes like you and I. Some of these people may have had good paying jobs at one time and through no fault of their own have fallen on bad times. Maybe we should just kick these people to the curb when they have no where else to turn for help. Maybe we should deny them a doctor and let them die when they have no ability to pay the high cost of healthcare fees. Do you really want a government that has no care or obligation to it's citizens? It's funny how other countries have managed to provide free access to healthcare for all their citizens. For a country who is supposedly to be a leader in human rights, we have failed miserably.

In the end, before implementing a healthcare program, I'm sure there would be a comparison on how raising taxes will offset premiums and co-pays. There could be a possibility to eliminate premiums altogether. Nothing is written in stone and it would still have to be ran through congress. Although I would like to see major legislature that directly affects the public put on the ballot for the public to decide. I don't like partisan politics getting in the way of legislation that has a huge impact on the general public.

Education is the foundation for being a leader in innovation and a strong economy. Yet getting an education is strapping young people in this country with enormous debt! If a majority of their income is going towards paying back college loans, they're left with no discretionary income to put back into the economy! Default rates on school loans continue to increase every year. All of this has a major affect on the U.S. economy. Continuing on this same path will eventually be a major cause for an economic collapse. Conservatives continue to cut funding for schools. Sweden and Denmark have provided free education, but charge for students outside the European community.

Nobody knows how these programs will finally be implemented. All these candidates have ideas on how they would make changes to the system. I'm sure once they're in a leadership position, there would be more in-depth research on how to implement these plans with the least amount of burden on the taxpayer.

Hillary - She has no track record worthy of anything. She did nothing in elected office in NY. She was arguably one of the worst SecStates ever and she is tied 'directly' the establishment and has been for years. I am sure someone where deep down in her Grinch heart there is a good person in someway but she is doing this to say she did it, not help the country. Foreign policy would be a nightmare as well as taxes, taxes and more taxes.

Sanders - This guy. He is the BizzaroTrump but he is not an outsider. When I saw he was running I read his latest book and it was a little out there but I saw his mindset. He is a socialist which does not mean he would bring to this country but he would have those cor beliefs. He has made his way in life trying to stick it to the man. He wants us, the taxpayer, to pay for everything. I have not heard ONCE from him about working to bring down the deficit. This is a guy who backed down to a few BLM protesters at his own rally. How do you think he would fare in a meeting with Putin or other world leaders? Lastly, and I hate to say this, but I do not think the majority of America will put someone who identifies as Jewish in office. Still lots of religious racism in the country. There are 3 times as many hate crime against them in the country than any other religion.

Cruz - I have grown more and more not to like him. In the beginning, I thought if someone else got the nod he would be a good VP but he has shown he is a bitter, self absorbed man who is simply a debater who speaks well with good talking points. Another Obama. He has some good stances but I think he would be a nightmare in office as not only would the DNC not work with him but the GOP floor would not allow any of his legislation through.

Trump - The outsider. To me the BizarroSanders. I know everyone thinks he is a simple loud blowhard, and to be honest, I laughed when i heard he was running. Then I read his latest book. Folks, the MSM is simply making him out to be who they want you to talk about. He is an outsider and not old money. He is not racist nor sexist. He cares a lot about the country and he knows how to make deals. He is also someone, if you were to study his past, who does not make a promise and not come through. He is the only one of the main four that has talked about balancing the budget and bringing some order back. He has become a lot more polished also since his first debate and his ads are not attacking but telling us what he sis going to do. Why not make our country great again because right now it is in a complete state of disarray.

I truly think the general election will come down to Trump vs Sanders/Clinton and TPTB will put in the person not that they like or even need but the one who they feel can make a deal when needed across the aisle. That is what we need.

originally posted by: butcherguy
Hillary Clinton is the best choice.
She is a woman.
She is totally honest.
She is supposed to be one of the sweetest people that you could ever meet.

She definitely has my vote!

Sadly somebody is not going to see that as sarcasm.

Don't under-estimate TPTB. And, DON'T BE SURPRISED if Obama is still POTUS, in 2017. It IS POSSIBLE for a U.S. President to serve a 3rd term. Maybe even, the VP becoming POTUS. Heck, the way things are, now, i'd say a dictatorship is right around the corner. The American people chose safety and security over "freedom" and "liberties", so.........anything is possible, at this point in time.