The Worst Presidential Choice in History!

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: madenusa

Trump has never done those either but look at all his support.

if we make a bet ,just a friendly bet , I see Hillary stealing the show just like Obama did with the electoral college....
im happy to be able to say I told you soooo to all that voted for our commander and chief and im not voting for Hillary either trumps a blowhart and will be a fail for our next elected Mrs. lady president

I beleave;
There is a very small, highly organized, (materially) super-rich, ultra-secret group of extremely Rich.....
Who are secretly running the entire world from behind the scenes. Governments, policy think-tanks, media, educational organizations and foundations, are all just among the visible part of their structure that they allow you to see.
You may be familiar with the names of people like Rothschild, Oppenheimer, Rockefeller.

They could have gave me a better leader to Vote for, there slacking.,lol

a reply to: DOCHOLIDAZE1

Yeah, but this is adding insult to injury. I mean at least they could have got some actors or something instead of this circus of freaks...Oh, wait a minute, guess that's been done already.

a reply to: EveStreet
All election results have to be is "believable."
Clinton's Stirring 1993 Gun Speech Will Make You Disappointed In How Little Has Changed
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originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: Konduit
"I agree with all negative criticism of the candidates... except when it comes to MY guy."

When you quote somebody, you're supposed to quote what they actually say and I never said that. Just an FYI.

Sanders. Socialist, yes. Focuses more on social programs and raising taxes on everyone then major issues like the Middle-East and the crippling debt hanging over the country. At least he isn't considered establishment, denied the Super PAC bribes and isn't bought by special interests.

That's just it though. You're incorrect about him raising taxes on everyone. He isn't. Tax increases only start for those making around 250,000 and up.

Obviously Sanders is your golden boy since your alright with self-opinionated criticism of every candidate except him.

Sanders has announced proposals that include raising 6.5 trillion dollars which could inflate to 18 trillion over a 10 year period... where do you think he is going to get that kind of money to fund his social programs?

I mean, lets be realistic here. No candidate is perfect.

originally posted by: Konduit

Obviously Sanders is your golden boy since your alright with self-opinionated criticism of every candidate except him.

I think he's the best choice from what's available. I wouldn't glamorize it with the term "golden boy". To me that implies something more like worshiping a sports player or cult leader. I simply think he's the best choice, that's all.

I'll let the Trump fans do the cult worship cheering and "Golden Boy" stuff.

Sanders has announced proposals that include raising 6.5 trillion dollars, which could inflate to 18 trillion over a 10 year period... where do you think he is going to get that kind of money to fund his social programs? I mean, lets be realistic here.

From what I've read most of that was already being spent, just being redirected now someplace else. The rest comes from tax reform and some new stuff like taxing wall street trades and stuff. I don't recall all the details but you can look it up.

My pick for the worst president , a guy that is actually still running, is Rick Santorum. I don't think it could get any worse.

a reply to: mOjOmSome of us Trump cult members like Bernie as well. Its actually a toss up for me if Bernie beats Clinton and hopefully he will. I just don't know yet.

a reply to: Foderalover
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a reply to: Foderalover

In other words you want someone to shake up the system in one way or another. Don't really care who just as long as some establishment elites get rattled. I can respect that.

originally posted by: Foderalover
a reply to: mekhanics You cant be serious, she will not ever be president, she has no support, ever met anyone who likes her ? I haven't. She is going down.

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VIDEO: Just six people greet Hillary in Texas — and she ignores them! (Title)

Texas is not Hillary Clinton country.

The former secretary of state made a fundraising stop in Beaumont, Texas Wednesday and KFDM reports only six people showed up at the airport to greet Clinton.

a reply to: Foderalover

I sincerely hope it comes down to Sanders vs Trump, then I would know that the American political system has not been absolutely co-opted by special interests. I would take either of those candidates over another empty suit.

originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: Foderalover

I sincerely hope it comes down to Sanders vs Trump, then I would know that the American political system has not been absolutely co-opted by special interests. I would take either of those candidates over another empty suit.

IMO,The American system certainly has been co-opted by special interests, there's no doubt about it.


Trump is a billionaire but I don’t think a part of the true ruling elite. Trump is not a JFK or a FDR, two rich presidents who turned against the true elite powers, one was assassinated and they tried to overthrow FDR. Trump I doubt is a rich boy turned good guy like them.


Sanders is a decent politician--policy wise--but will never be able to do anything without a congress…. He admitted this himself when he first ran for office.


The only reason Obama got something done, the stimulus and Obamacare, was when he had both congresses.

a reply to: babybunnies

8 plus trillion pretty much say's it all.

How can you live with all the transparency ?

No I think I have my facts straight. Maybe you're fact free.

a reply to: Konduit

I just wanted to let you know that the $18 trillion estimate has been widely rebuked by, not only various media outlets, but by the economist consulted for the estimate.

What ‘The Wall Street Journal’ Gets Totally Wrong About Bernie Sanders’s Agenda

Top Economist Says Bernie’s Plan Will Actually SAVE the US $5 Trillion

4 Reasons Why The Wall Street Journal's Attack on Bernie is Bogus

No, Bernie Sanders is not going to bankrupt America to the tune of $18 trillion

An Open Letter to the Wall Street Journal on Its Bernie Sanders Hit Piece

Gerald Friedman's research was cited in a Wall Street Journal story about Bernie Sanders's proposals for government spending. Friedman responds to that story below.

a reply to: links234

As I said Sanders still needs 6.5 trillion to fund his proposals, the 18 trillion is just speculation by some economists as to how much it could inflate to over a 10 year period. Do you really think he is going to get the appropriate funds for his programs by raising taxes on just a small demographic of the American people?

If Sanders has any chance of realistically implementing his proposals without increasing the already crippling debt hanging over the country, there will need to be tax raises across the board.

Also consider he is going to have to lobby to a divided congress, so I think his proposals are borderline fantasy.

a reply to: Konduit

Where are you getting this number? He doesn't need to 'get' $6.5 trillion. The government is already spending that, he's proposing shifting the costs in addition to raising taxes.