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originally posted by: peter vlar
so I take it Christians like these are somehow not "real" Christians? That seems to be the running narrative when one group of Christians does something decidedly non Christ like. and no...I'm not accusing you of using that line, I'm just preparing myself for the inevitable responses that I have seen many times here on ATS.
originally posted by: paraphi
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Second, what counts to you as "carnage & terrorism"? Have you actually looked into the American attacks on abortion clinics;
To be fair, attacks on "abortion clinics" have not accounted for hundreds of thousands killed. It is a bit of a red herring argument. The sectarian violence enacted by the different Muslim denominations against each other (and any remaining Christians) is a different order of magnitude.
Comparing exceptional violence by some wacko in an abortion clinic to the hundreds of car bombs and suicide bombers in markets, mosques and festivals is just silly.
Just to be clear, this is another case where we're not supposed to believe what is actually written in the New Testament? This is another case where we need to interpret the violent words in a non-violent way?
If so, I'll go along with that. However, will you give the same leeway to Qur'anic passages that appear to be violent? Especially when practicing Muslims say those passages are being taken out of context, have been mistranslated, or the such?
originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: enlightenedservant
As a Muslim do you take everything in the quran
Or has certain passages lost their meaning in this day and age?.
While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a parable, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once.