How To Respond When Someone Blames All Muslims

I grow tired of people who can't afford their own healthcare (democrats) or comprehend the difference between to and too (op) telling me anything.

There is a reason democrats are the party of the poor I think it's high time you guys begin to recognize that reason.

a reply to: Jmilo

Way to make your ATS debute with a partisan snipe... Especially an off topic one.

reply to: DBCooper71

I think all these idiots need to Google rotherham grooming scandal and come back and say all Muslims are peace loving people. I live a few miles away from rotherham and have had dealings with various police comissioners and leading councillors and I can tell them that's Muslims as a whole in Yorkshire are not peace loving,and try to distance themselves from society as much as possible,and a large proportion of them are rapists and peadophiles (that includes women).....id put a link up to what's been going off in Yorkshire but I don't know how to do it

originally posted by: Jmilo
I grow tired of people who can't afford their own healthcare (democrats) or comprehend the difference between to and too (op) telling me anything.

There is a reason democrats are the party of the poor I think it's high time you guys begin to recognize that reason.

So dems are the evil poor and reps are the good rich?

originally posted by: lucifershiningone

This is how to educate those who fear Muslims.

Point taken...but the presentation, logic and support is from the' PC' side-of-the- asile.

now from vic's history perspective:


back when the Prophet first created Islam, there was a need to have available a quickly gathered Muslim Army of adherents to the faith and a goodly percentage of those followers willing and eager to die for the leaders orders

hence the 'religion' that molds those who 'Submit' above everything else...
just to make sure the adherents always stayed in line, there were some personalities in the faithful Islamists who would become the 'enforcers' to make sure the wide scope of people were compliant with Submitting to the 'will of Allah'

these peace-time enforcers would expand their ranks during the times that the Imams declared that Islamic Soldiers were needed to become an army of fighters to protect the Islamic State or community... when the need for Jihadist soldiers was no longer needed the prayer and exhortations by the Clerics would taper off... the War-Cry would diminish and the 'programmed' masses would default into a un-militaristic army of faithful, but ready to again bear arms against Infidels at a oments notice


the description of Islam/Sharia being a religion is askew....it is rather a ideology with a pressured or coerced or even brainwashed body of followers who are channeled into behaviors and rituals designed to make them almost hypnotized or otherwise browbeaten by thugs of the local warlord....

the hierarchy of gangster families is an apt analogy for academic comparison.


in fact ALL religions are power generating mechanisms that bend-the-will of the individual...Muslims' no better or worse than any other cult following...
in fact there is little difference between the need of growing an ISIS military group from the sponsored IDF Israel Defense Force... the only difference being an organized nation-state Armed Force, versus a borderless Caliphate Armed Force
each with their own ethics and humanitarian codes (which are miles apart)

a reply to: Krazysh0t
You turn around in circles.
Exactly that's the reason I've told you about personal experiences so you you won't bring the media in the question again.
My opinions on muslim are based on real life muslims.
I'm from Europe. I don't live there anymore but I still have family and friends there. Their experiences and opinion are similar with mine.
Even here on ATS we have people from Europe who testify bad things, and I'm not talking about terrorism only, but their whole way of life.
There are also others who don't agree with them, like you and some few others here.
Maybe we are all right, because we live in different places, under different conditions. They are not all of them bad and definitely they are not all good.

But so far I think I am in the right to say they should be mostly educated to integrate in our countries and way of life, and not the other way around.

a reply to: Lukied

I love watching the mental gymnastics the liberal regressives put them selves through to justify this ideology, you can show them allthe evidence in the world and they still won't believe it.......its like they're in some sort of cult.

originally posted by: Lukied
reply to: DBCooper71

I think all these idiots need to Google rotherham grooming scandal and come back and say all Muslims are peace loving people. I live a few miles away from rotherham and have had dealings with various police comissioners and leading councillors and I can tell them that's Muslims as a whole in Yorkshire are not peace loving,and try to distance themselves from society as much as possible,and a large proportion of them are rapists and peadophiles (that includes women).....id put a link up to what's been going off in Yorkshire but I don't know how to do it

s.telegraph.co.uk...

When Sarah Wilson was 11 years old, a 30-year-old man raped her in the school playground at night. The paedophilic attack was so traumatic that Sarah, who had no understanding of sex, was left numb to tears. When she returned home that night, she felt not only a deep sense of shame and disgust but also a fear that normal life was now over.

Sarah’s rape was the grotesque beginning of her systematic grooming and sexual assault. She was plied with alcohol and drugs, driven across the country to be raped by multiple men in one night, and ignored by both the police and social services. Her story is not unique. Sarah is one of at least 1,400 children who were sexually exploited by gangs of predominantly Pakistani-origin men in Rotherham from 1997 to 2013. But when a report last summer finally revealed the scale of abuse in Rotherham, Sarah’s only surprise was that someone finally cared.

Last week, a National Crime Agency investigation announced that around 300 suspects had been identified, including two serving or former Rotherham councillors. Taxi drivers, who were involved in trafficking victims, have also come under scrutiny. Around 25 taxi drivers no longer have licenses due to child abuse concerns, and hundreds of taxi drivers are planning to strike in response to rules requiring them to install CCTV inside their cabs.

Could someone explain to me about the poisoned candy argument because I do not understand.

ETA.
Nevermind. I looked for the explanation about it. My bad.

My neighbors are Muslim and I cannot, in good conscience, condemn them along with bloodthirsty and murderous terrorist. Nonetheless, the argument "there are 1.5 billion Muslims" holds little weight, as most of the denominations are near incomparable. Blanket statements simply cannot be applied.

That being said, try going to Mecca, the holy place of all Muslims, as a non-muslim. You're simply not allowed to be there. Also, according to the sharia law, they still publicly behead blasphemers, apostates and those charged with witchcraft and sorcery. God forbid you leave your faith or are caught with a talisman of some sort.

Blame all Muslims for the actions of a few madmen

Okay…then we’ll blame all white Christian’s for the genocide of the Indians.

And blame all White Christians for the genocide of Africans through 5 centuries of slavery

And blame all European Christians for 5 centuries of colonialism
Of Asian, Arabs, Indians, and other world peoples

Isn’t that fair?
How’s that?

Or better yet...
Blame all Muslims for the actions of a few madmen

Sure when they colonize a third of Europe

...Enslave a third of Europe

And Genocide the rest of Europe

Doesn't that make sense...isn't that fair?

a reply to: Willtell

Okay…then we’ll blame all white Christian’s people for the genocide of the Indians.

Correct.

blame all White Christians for the genocide of Africans through 5 centuries of slavery

Yup, that's right too

blame all European Christians for 5 centuries of colonialism
Of Asian, Arabs, Indians, and other world peoples

Correct'omondo !

Us whites have caused a lot of genocide over the years. Us whites have been responsible for killing Indians, making buffalo go extinct (among many species), destroying habitats, environments, responsible for enslaving Africa, bringing disease into N.America. Us whites have been responsible for wars, famine, corruption. What else? Lots of things. Us white folk have a dark history. Did I just generalize? Yup, sure did. Am I still correct? You bet.

originally posted by: DBCooper71
a reply to: Lukied

I love watching the mental gymnastics the liberal regressives put them selves through to justify this ideology, you can show them allthe evidence in the world and they still won't believe it.......its like they're in some sort of cult.

That is exactly how I see it.a cult.it just beggars belief...I find it sad that we call ourselves an intelligent species who should be exploring the universe,when in actual fact were no better than primates who have been given a gift of technology. (Which we will undoubtedly try and destroy eachother with)I could go on but then I'd be ranting.haha

originally posted by: Stormdancer777

originally posted by: Lukied
reply to: DBCooper71

I think all these idiots need to Google rotherham grooming scandal and come back and say all Muslims are peace loving people. I live a few miles away from rotherham and have had dealings with various police comissioners and leading councillors and I can tell them that's Muslims as a whole in Yorkshire are not peace loving,and try to distance themselves from society as much as possible,and a large proportion of them are rapists and peadophiles (that includes women).....id put a link up to what's been going off in Yorkshire but I don't know how to do it

s.telegraph.co.uk...

When Sarah Wilson was 11 years old, a 30-year-old man raped her in the school playground at night. The paedophilic attack was so traumatic that Sarah, who had no understanding of sex, was left numb to tears. When she returned home that night, she felt not only a deep sense of shame and disgust but also a fear that normal life was now over.

Sarah’s rape was the grotesque beginning of her systematic grooming and sexual assault. She was plied with alcohol and drugs, driven across the country to be raped by multiple men in one night, and ignored by both the police and social services. Her story is not unique. Sarah is one of at least 1,400 children who were sexually exploited by gangs of predominantly Pakistani-origin men in Rotherham from 1997 to 2013. But when a report last summer finally revealed the scale of abuse in Rotherham, Sarah’s only surprise was that someone finally cared.

Last week, a National Crime Agency investigation announced that around 300 suspects had been identified, including two serving or former Rotherham councillors. Taxi drivers, who were involved in trafficking victims, have also come under scrutiny. Around 25 taxi drivers no longer have licenses due to child abuse concerns, and hundreds of taxi drivers are planning to strike in response to rules requiring them to install CCTV inside their cabs.

brilliant.


Thankyou my friend,it's much appreciated.i bet even though the stats are screaming the truth,it will still fall on deaf ears to the do Gooderstone who don't have to live near it all....We've got a saying of people who are out of touch with the situation."they're just nimbys "meaning not in my back yard.if it's not in their back yard they don't care.sad

originally posted by: Tindalos2013
a reply to: misskat1

With a 90 percent chance of not eating a handful of poisoned candy, sure I would not hesitate to do so.

You can eat all the candy you want, just don't force me to eat it.

2nd.

a reply to: lucifershiningone

My people were put through that. We called it forced assimilation, severe repercussions for speaking our own language or practicing our traditions. Yep as Native American, I would not wish that upon any group..sure I may have not went through it personally, but the effects are still felt to this day.

I read somewhere they stuck pins in children's tongues for using their native language. In "reform" schools or reformation schools, where Indian children had their hair cut short, where dressed like whites, and sat in school classrooms to learn to be 'civilized'.

google image search

a reply to: peskyhumans

If they want to live in the west they need to adopt our laws and live peacefully with western culture.

They were fine in their culture until the west drove them out. They are refugees by force, not by choice.

Thats a whole different thing than they want to come over because they like western culture.

In fact, I'd say they are a little pissed about the whole thing, wouldn't you be?

Lets reverse psyop it for a moment-- Say some Terrs blow up your home town forcing you to flee to their country where its "nice and peaceful"… you going to assimilate, adapt, live "peacefully", hmmm?

a reply to: WhiteHat

"Not all are bad and not all are good"

No #! They're human just like you and I. This seems to be something lost on so many people. As far as what they should be doing. They should have the right to self-determination just like you or I. If they break the laws. They get arrested, but as long as they don't do that they are fine.

Does anybody actually know what Muslims think, believe, stand for, deep down?

I keep hearing comments like, "Well, I work with some Muslims and they seem great blah-blah..."

I suppose we should be grateful that they're not actually trying to kill you, or advocating it, but it doesn't actually tell us anything. They are putting on a public face, like we all do. And what do we really know about any one of us in that case?

Do you know what they talk about to one another when you're not there? Do you know what goes on in their mosques, what their imams preach to their congregations?

Do you know for certain that the majority don't support IS?

55%? 60%? More? Less?

How do you know?

Let's have some facts and figures instead of idle speculation.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: peskyhumans

If they want to live in the west they need to adopt our laws and live peacefully with western culture.

They were fine in their culture until the west drove them out. They are refugees by force, not by choice.

Thats a whole different thing than they want to come over because they like western culture.

In fact, I'd say they are a little pissed about the whole thing, wouldn't you be?

Lets reverse psyop it for a moment-- Say some Terrs blow up your home town forcing you to flee to their country where its "nice and peaceful"… you going to assimilate, adapt, live "peacefully", hmmm?

So the west drove them out? I though they were fleeing from ISIS? So the refugees are mad at the West? Does not make any sense at all.