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originally posted by: paraphi
originally posted by: soulwaxer
I have no doubt at all that the Paris attacks, as well as the bombing of the Russian airliner, were designed by Western intelligence. The timing is perfect.
What a simple worldview. A view where there are no bad people, except Western Intelligence.
I beg to differ. I think that there are violent and brutal people who revel and thrive in brutal places and who like nothing better than killing people. Most of the killing in the Middle East and North Africa has been Muslims killing Muslims in a cycle of denominational violence that's been going on for ages. The Wets is in the middle and suffer the occasional bit of fall-out.
...The Islamic State has attached great importance to the Syrian city of Dabiq, near Aleppo. It named its propaganda magazine after the town, and celebrated madly when (at great cost) it conquered Dabiq’s strategically unimportant plains. It is here, the Prophet reportedly said, that the armies of Rome will set up their camp. The armies of Islam will meet them, and Dabiq will be Rome’s Waterloo or its Antietam.
“Dabiq is basically all farmland,” one Islamic State supporter recently tweeted. “You could imagine large battles taking place there.” The Islamic State’s propagandists drool with anticipation of this event, and constantly imply that it will come soon. The state’s magazine quotes Zarqawi as saying, “The spark has been lit here in Iraq, and its heat will continue to intensify … until it burns the crusader armies in Dabiq.”...The Islamic State’s propagandists drool with anticipation of this event, and constantly imply that it will come soon.
The state’s magazine quotes Zarqawi as saying, “The spark has been lit here in Iraq, and its heat will continue to intensify … until it burns the crusader armies in Dabiq.”
Now that it has taken Dabiq, the Islamic State awaits the arrival of an enemy army there, whose defeat will initiate the countdown to the apocalypse. Western media frequently miss references to Dabiq in the Islamic State’s videos, and focus instead on lurid scenes of beheading. “Here we are, burying the first American crusader in Dabiq, eagerly waiting for the remainder of your armies to arrive,
The Prophetic narration that foretells the Dabiq battle refers to the enemy as Rome...
originally posted by: paraphi
originally posted by: soulwaxer
I have no doubt at all that the Paris attacks, as well as the bombing of the Russian airliner, were designed by Western intelligence. The timing is perfect.
What a simple worldview. A view where there are no bad people, except Western Intelligence.
I beg to differ. I think that there are violent and brutal people who revel and thrive in brutal places and who like nothing better than killing people. Most of the killing in the Middle East and North Africa has been Muslims killing Muslims in a cycle of denominational violence that's been going on for ages. The Wets is in the middle and suffer the occasional bit of fall-out.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: conspiracytheoristIAM
a reply to: Ghost147
How many countries can be involved in a regional conflict, as in Syria, without this escalating into ......? I can't see any diplomatic solution , if France ramps things up. Is there any stopping what seems inevitable ?
It depends. Here's an example.
America's "Vietnam War" is usually called "The 2nd Indochina War" globally. The US had backed France's attempts to re-conquer Indochina in the "1st Indochina War", but the Vietcong kept beating France. So the US used the false flag "Gulf of Tonkin incidents" to jump directly into the situation. The US, French, South Koreans, and Australians were just some of the countries fighting against the Vietcong.
But the Vietcong had help from the Chinese and North Koreans, among others. And remember, there were far more casualties in the Vietnam War/2nd Indochina War than in anything we've seen in the War on Terror. Yet that war was never considered the start of World War 3.
originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Egg Chicken Egg Chicken Egg Chicken Egg Chicken
France more active than rest of the west in tackling Syria
First targets in Syria in late September. And...
On 8 October, France attacked an Isis training camp in Raqqa, capital of the group’s self-proclaimed caliphate in north-eastern Syria. It was believed to house foreign fighters, including French nationals, but Hollande denied they were targeting a specific individual.
Also...
In all, France has carried out about 1,300 sorties in Iraq, with 271 airstrikes destroying more than 450 terrorist targets. Only a few strikes have been carried out in Syria. It is using six Rafale multi-role fighter jets stationed in the United Arab Emirates and six Mirage 2000 fighters deployed in Jordan.
That might explain a few things.
originally posted by: Ph03n1x
so if they enact article 5 that compels all NATO states to join with them? im not sure how that will work considering Isis is not a country but a terrorist organization... the west declared war on terror more than a decade ago and that war has never even come close to ending so in what way do isis differ from any other terrorist organization in that regard...
originally posted by: TritonTaranis
originally posted by: Semicollegiate
WW III started when the US invaded Iraq in 2003.
That put invasion and conquest back in the playbook.
What?
Conquest means you take that territory and call it your own... Kinda like China stole Tibet and/or Russia stole 90% of its modern day territory like Siberia parts of Finland etc etc
Iraq is NOT named the U.S on any maps
WWIII never started in Iraq, it started after WWII ended in Korea
Saddam was just a soviet puppet threatening to put a dent in the petro dollar
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
I find it both inspiring and amusing that France, who has been comically referred to as "...a bunch of frog-eating surrender monkeys" since WWI, has so quickly and clearly demonstrated the correct response to an act of war. I can only hope king obama was taking notes because sooner or later there WILL be a test, almost certainly on American soil again.
originally posted by: conspiracytheoristIAM
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: conspiracytheoristIAM
a reply to: Ghost147
How many countries can be involved in a regional conflict, as in Syria, without this escalating into ......? I can't see any diplomatic solution , if France ramps things up. Is there any stopping what seems inevitable ?
It depends. Here's an example.
America's "Vietnam War" is usually called "The 2nd Indochina War" globally. The US had backed France's attempts to re-conquer Indochina in the "1st Indochina War", but the Vietcong kept beating France. So the US used the false flag "Gulf of Tonkin incidents" to jump directly into the situation. The US, French, South Koreans, and Australians were just some of the countries fighting against the Vietcong.
But the Vietcong had help from the Chinese and North Koreans, among others. And remember, there were far more casualties in the Vietnam War/2nd Indochina War than in anything we've seen in the War on Terror. Yet that war was never considered the start of World War 3.
You'e forgetting a few important details about the Viet Nam conflict. While both sides in this conflict had numerous backers, as you point out, Americans and Russians and Chinese were not in country fighting each other. In Syria we have Americans, Russians , French along with Assad's troops and a multitude of splinter rebel factions rubbing elbows right next door to Israel.
I won't even get into your claim of North Koreans in the Viet Nam war....it was North Vietnamese troops supplying and fighting along with the Viet Cong. I was there from March "67 to end of Oct. "68.
If you can't see the differences between the Viet Nam conflict and what is developing right now in Syria, nothing I can say will change your mind.