A Think Tank Thread.

I was searching for a think tank thread on ATS. You know a thread where we can give and discuss ideas in a civil manner and possibly come up with solutions to Political, Economic and Social issues that are present today.

We were discussing on another thread the fact that the whole economic system is set up to enslave us to debt. I was wondering if any would like to discuss what possible alternatives we may have to the current Banking and Economic system that is causing more harm to the US and Worldwide economics.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

What a novel idea, hmmm, gee...perhaps we could just realize for once that materialistic crap is useless, that celebrating holidays is ridiculous, that instead of killing each other with guns and bombs and drunk driving we actually give a crap about what is important, each other.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

We already have one. Its called ATS, Above Top Secret...this website

It's more of a blog tank than a think tank...

a reply to: mysterioustranger
ATS is so fractured and many threads are nothing more than avenues of bashing, crashing and full of diminutive nonsense.

I am speaking of a thread given solely to actual obtainable solutions not fractured thoughts and rantings, but a place where solutions are met and obtainable ideas are generated and formulated. A thread where people aren't there to crap on others but to offer solutions that others can come too, even our politicians and get open and discussed solutions they can quote and place into action.

A place that can be accessed and joined not like the Elitist think tanks funded by politically motivate individuals for the purpose of their agenda.

Sorry to say ATS as a whole cannot be thought of as a think tank. However ATS can have some of the brightest minds behind the thinking, and coming from it without political, religious or economic motivation behind them. This offers a think tank of the people by the people.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: mysterioustranger
ATS is so fractured and many threads are nothing more than avenues of bashing, crashing and full of diminutive nonsense.

I am speaking of a thread given solely to actual obtainable solutions not fractured thoughts and rantings, but a place where solutions are met and obtainable ideas are generated and formulated. A thread where people aren't there to crap on others but to offer solutions that others can come too, even our politicians and get open and discussed solutions they can quote and place into action.

A place that can be accessed and joined not like the Elitist think tanks funded by politically motivate individuals for the purpose of their agenda.

Sorry to say ATS as a whole cannot be thought of as a think tank. However ATS can have some of the brightest minds behind the thinking, and coming from it without political, religious or economic motivation behind them. This offers a think tank of the people by the people.

Let's organise a conference. Alternative Voices Conference.

Invite talkers to come and give 1 hour presentations that challenge modern paradigms, and present alternative solutions. Think tanks just become another select group of opinion makers and usually end up corrupted by manipulative agendas. Annual conferences are the way forward.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

All right, I hope you are ready for me.

Multiverses actually share one dimension with our universe, Time. Granfather paradox is caused by the human mind's inability to think in four dimensions. Mass of particles is caused by spatial inclinations of their geometrical forms, causing shift in cross sections. You can prove the universe is not caused by the observer by blinking - if the universe only exists if you watch it, then it should stop existing after you stop watching it. Wars are illogical, for they consume resources which could otherwise be employed to augment mankind's chances to persist in the future. If the Feynman–Stueckelberg interpretation is true, then it means mirrors made of antimatter would show one's future. In the face of a conflict, it is better to be underestimated then feared, for as the latter forces evolution, the former induces surprise. Laws of thermodynamics apply for system which moves in normal time - they are invalidated by time travel, which implies the discovery of time travel would correlate with the discovery of infinite energy.

a reply to: swanne

Thats too abstract.

a reply to: nonjudgementalist

that is not a bad idea but remember conferences cost money, and money comes from someone who is usually motivated by a return.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Hehe, just putting back the "storm" in "brainstorming"...

This is how my mind works... Just accept it.

Now. What would you like us to brainstorm about?

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Doesn't matter. Lets turn it into a festival.

a reply to: ChesterJohn
Maybe this might help.

a reply to: MaxTamesSiva

You mean, Capitalism on steroids?

a reply to: swanne
We're looking for solutions, whatever's out there or whatever we can think of. At this point everything's valid however crazy it sounds. Maybe most of us have only a vague idea of what the problem is, myself included. How can we solve a problem if we don't know the whole picture, much less choose a solution or offer one?

a reply to: ChesterJohn

I'm game for this (a thread, not meeting up).

I suggest we use a "communal living" type of system which focuses on the advancement of humankind as a whole.

Our needs should be nationalized, with government's only job being to provide the citizens with our necessities. This includes things like basic housing, healthcare, safety/security (law enforcement & military), sanitized water & sewage systems; as well as our basic infrastructures like roads, schools, and power. Governments should provide a certain bare minimum which can be determined based on the wealth of that society. And every advancement in one of these fields will be immediately shared with the rest of humankind (as in, a new farming technique that increases crop yields by 6% will immediately become public domain & freely taught in agricultural circles).

Our wants, on the other hand, should be capitalized. That gives individuals & groups an opportunity to better their living conditions & possessions above the government provided standard of living. As in, government makes sure everyone has access to flour, water, and basic crops; but if I want McDonalds or some chocolate chip cookies, I have to work to get the money for those. If I need surgery, that should be government provided; but if I want plastic surgery, I have to work to get the money for that (unless it's for burn victims, implants for women who've had a breast removed from breast cancer, etc).

Under this type of system, people who can't or won't work will have their bare minimums taken care of, but not much else. This includes healthcare, a basic dorm for housing, a set food supply, and access to educational facilities and public transport. Access to educational facilities will include giving that individual a chance to increase their qualifications, which will increase their ability to contribute to society in nontraditional ways.

a reply to: MaxTamesSiva

Problems which asre univeral to all human individuals:

-lack of shelter
-lack of water
-lack of food
-lack of energy
-destruction of environment.

Forget political issues - one man's political problem is another man's political solution. We need to focus on univeral problems - which would then invalidate eventual political problems anyway.

This is my opinion. Whaddya think?

originally posted by: swanne

This is my opinion. Whaddya think?

It's a start. There is this ad that keeps popping everytime I watch YouTube. Should I buy it?

How about an organization of society without govenrmnt, or minimal government.

Sociology texts tend to be vague about social networks and voluntary associations.

Seems to me that by now, there should be a map of society.

Fishy that there isn't one.

There was a process for solving problems we used to use in a competition manner when I was in grade and middle school that might actually be useful/worthwhile for such a forum. It was called Creative Problem Solving.

You took one problem. Brainstormed solutions. Chose your best five. Applied a set of criteria to each of those solutions to score them and picked the best one.

Then you wrote up a practical plan to go with that chosen solution.