It's that time of year - Halloween experiment - Any volunteers?

originally posted by: DAVID64
So why not do all these "rituals" yourself and record the results? Do it on a live feed, so we can check in anytime we like. Why would you want to purposely endanger someone, just to prove Evil is real?
This just screams of scam or someone getting a cheap thrill out of watching strangers going about their day. If you're such a Believer, what would God think of these rituals and the resulting damage to a person?

This is practicing forbidden occult type practices. I don't do this. The volunteer would.

I know these spirits exist but a non believer does not. It is not for my benefit but for the non believer.

What "resulting damages" do you speak of? Are you talking about all those on the net that have done this type of practice without supervision? Oh..... you mean those.....

Lets just say for argument sake that some hardcore atheist volunteered to do this experiment and afterwards became a believer and became saved..... do you think it was worth it?

four pages and still no volunteer.....huh.... well what do you say about this?

The next time someone wants to argue about the existance of God think about this thread and my offer.

The challenge is open.

Hypocrisy at its finest....... all talk and no one willing to take the walk.

Why? Fear is the answer........both you and I know there is more to life than sitting on your ass and bitching about how hard life is and how unfair it is.

Ever wonder how your friend Christopher Hitchens is doing?

a reply to: DeathSlayer

I would probably do it if I had cameras, and could afford not leaving my room for the entire weekend. I'd even be ok with wearing shorts in the shower.

I never wonder how ole' Chris is doing. He's dead.

Here's the thing too.. How would we know this was proof of the Christian narrative? If anything it would be proof of 'something'. Something terrifying to be sure. But what would the evidence be that these things are in allegiance with Satan, or that your God cast them out when the experiment was over?

Also this:

originally posted by: beansidhe
But anyway, even if we did this, how would you define your parameters to rule out eg psychokinesis or other purely human phenomena like psychosis?

What about exorcisms in other faiths, calling upon other gods.

Is that not proof of their god?

And since you mentioned NDE somewhere in the thread..

Are NDE where the person meets and visits with other deities proof of their faiths too?

I am a former believer. I spent the first 2/3's of my life as a believer and with a large presence of other believers in my life. Very limited exposure to non believers.

It wasn't until I broke free that I could clearly see how misguided mine and other people attempts were to bring people to god. In all that time the judgment had a strong presence. Attempts to convert people through fear and even entertainment was there, but what was lacking was love.

I am sorry OP but the use of fear IS a control method. If you truly believed and were not working for the other side, you won't have come up with a great tool for the other side. If God and Satan existed, I would say that it is clear that you are batting for team Satan, helping him to gain pathways into peoples lives.

The other thing I see is that you are placing limits on God and and implying that he is evil himself. A truly good God could not send someone to hell just because he became angry with that person. That would eliminate the possibility of God being perfect and good. I thought God was supposed to be perfect?

a reply to: calstorm

They like to say he is all good but..

That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. Isaiah 45:6-7

They forget about these verses.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

What good would come from anyone contacting Hell?

You had my interest until your contactee was revealed.

a reply to: beansidhe

An atheist with pagan sensibilities? Oxymoronic.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

I don't talk with them, but command them to obey the one true God in Jesus name.

I somehow disbelieve the Holy Creator gave authorization to a mortal like you to perpetuate this "dance with the Devil" game. Who are you to command anything to obey you on behalf of "the one true God"?

Who is this "one true God" you speak about that lets YOU go around commanding demons to obey you and playing with the souls of humankind?

I also doubt anyone on ATS would trust YOU with their soul as there is clearly something amiss with yours.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

God can not stand next to sin nor is it allowed within his presence.

God can do anything, stand anywhere, appear anywhere HE choses. He certainly has the final say in what is allowed in HIS presence.

Actually you bring up a good point because depending on who you deal with ...... some demons can manipulate both video and audible recordings. Getting these things to expose themselves is tricky.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

My how convenient for them, did demons have to become nerds & geeks to mess with modern tech.

K~

i couldn't stomach reading through 4 pages of crap i might go and read them later. OP your misunderstanding things about halloween or as it was also called samhain. instead of begging others to show proof of any activity why don't you try looking for it yourself first?

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Don't be claiming any type of victory here yet dude.
Why would anyone waste their own time on entertaining your delusions of grandeur?.
Tell you what you get anyone you want to do it...I bet you will not be able to get anyone to do it but If you can do put up whatever fakery you film to attempt to prove nonsense...I need a good laugh.

Anyone dude get anyone even If you know them.

Odd how all of a sudden you have become a witch finder general exorcising soldier of god isn't it?.

a reply to: boymonkey74

I would actually do it if I didn't have to fork out cash for cameras.

People could watch me drink beer and listen to metal.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

I got a Halloween party at work.
Also no camera.

a reply to: boymonkey74

If the OP wants to pay for the cameras and whatever else is required for this experiment.. I don't need to keep any of them. So he wouldn't exactly suffer a financial loss. More importantly.. what's the price of a saved soul? Is he willing to pay or is his suffering for the damned not as painful to him as he makes it sound?

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

Someones already doing it anyhow..

www.hngn.com...



Gonna watch this at least it will have better production values.

Honestly, I would have no issue with this other than the lack of privacy involved with the cameras. Also, I haven't owned a camera of any kind for probably 10 years now and those last ones were just the disposable travel types. Remember those?

But yeah, while I'd rather not waste two days of my favorite holiday time of the year, I'd have no problem reciting any number of satanic rites or whatever you have listed among your rituals. Wouldn't kill animals or anything though and also, I've got an aversion to cutting myself, but I might be able to get beyond that if you think my virginal blood is powerful enough to manifest oh wait - nothing... Because NOTHING is out there.

There are no such things as ghosts.
We have no souls.
There is no God nor Devil.
Absolutely nothing of interest will come of this except yet more lack of proof for such existences. Not that it would be enough. You'd find SOME way to say it was botched or whatever.

Would be amusing to perform the rituals and bore the hell outta everyone expecting something though. You wouldn't believe the sheer amount of time I can spend flattening land in Minecraft.