Do We Want Private Corporations Educating Our Kids?

You think about it.. from the youngest of age, we learn chemistry.

When your a little kid you wonder - what the hell do I need this for?

Will it teach me to live a better life?

And when you become an adult, you learn the reason why... it is to serve interests which are not necessarily your interests.

a reply to: JesseVentura

Do We Want Private Corporations Educating Our Kids - Its been happening for years, its called private schools, and partly funded private schools, universities which have bee taking money from busienss your years.

Most of these organsations these days are simply Private Education Business PEBs

They are big time in Australia.

The private sector has far too much inlfucence over the carciulum anyway as they are now designed to turn out kids equipped to be nothing more than samll cogs in a corpoate machine.

The evidence of this is that schools do not teach kids:

how look after themselves finanically
they do not teach them about how money in created or how money works
they do not teach the kids about the evils of interest and debt.

they do not teach them about the concept of rule of law. This is because private sector knows that if you dont know your rights, you aint got any rights and thats why we have sheeple and rouge courts.

they do not teach them about how to fend for themselves

keep up the good work Jesse

a reply to: gentledissident

I get what you're saying but if the guy is trying to use this website to push a theory, or to put it plainly if he is trying to use this website to "share" his ideas and feed a debate he has a duty to be here to answer some of the replies, even if it's for a limited amount of time.

I'm not saying he has to be at the computer every minute of every day but he could at least give people half a day, twenty four hours to hear their comments or to butt back at his own. I mean it's just the right thing to do. Again I know he is a busy man but surely he has a few hours to spare.

But yeah you're right on us being a strange bunch but using this forum to share his theories he should be prepared to stick around for a few hours to comment back.

a reply to: JesseVentura

" We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning a living. The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and be for the good of all.

Therefore, we demand: … an end to the power of the financial interests. We demand profit sharing in big business. We demand a broad extension of care for the aged.

We demand … the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchases of national, state, and municipal governments.

In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our entire system of public education …

We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents …

The government must undertake the improvement of public health – by protecting mother and child, by prohibiting child labor … by the greatest possible support for all clubs concerned with the physical education of youth.

We combat the… materialistic spirit within and without us, and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of the common good before the individual good."

-From the political program of the Nazi Party, adopted in Munich, February 24, 1920

This is how "they" actually get to us, the people. Take control of our kids. Next thing you know the kids will turn on their parents and paint them as the bad guys. Follow your masters or else you block progress. They will give these kids no choice. "Your future depends on playing by our rules". We have to stop this.

This is a worse situation than the Cubs in game 4. Damn it when are the good guys going to win?

originally posted by: Dwoodward85
a reply to: JesseVentura

I dont really watch these anymore mainly because Jesse doesn't actually get involved in the debate on here, clearly he either has someone else putting it up and then walking away and not commenting back or it's one of his underlings pretending to be him rather than him replying.

I've commented a few of these and asked him if he'd look into the huge pedo ring running through the VIPs of my country's elite and nothing, not a dicky bird.

I feel the exact same way!

I think it has to do with the fact that Jessie Ventura's strong-suit is not debate. If anything, he's more of an echo chamber.

I've dubbed him as the "ATS Hit & Run Specialist."

a reply to: reldra

Yes Common Core is ALL wrong and as they say rotten to the core from the government overstepping it's bounds over the states rights to Bill Gates buying off the National Governors Assn to the horrible content to the convoluted standards themselves and the people behind them who are not even real educators but social engineers. Did I mention the high stakes testing and teachers not even seeing the tests and having no more than 15% input and Pearson making money off the testing and oh yah the content ......immoral and inappropriate sex ed and the climate change agenda in place of real science. Oh yah and the data tracking and monitoring of kids and their families and storing in the giant new data warehouse in Utah .

a reply to: greencmp

I can only give one star to you but you deserve many for this post. Thank you very much.

a reply to: JesseVentura

Jesse, the blending if corporatism with government with an imposed agenda...ohhh wait that's fascism.... But today they are calling it Public/Private Partnerships a la sustainable development.

originally posted by: doclec
a reply to: ketsuko

But you do have a choice in most situatons. Public, private or chartered. If you go public, unfortunately you have to attend from within your zip code. If you go private, you pay your money and you take your pick. And charter schools are some combination of both those options.

As far as public as it relates to the zip code, there has to be some form of regulation, otherwise you get people from across the city trying to get into the "good" schools.

I only have the choice if I, the parent, have the means over and above my taxes to make the choice.

If I were a poor parent, I have no choice. It's the state run school.

Heck, without the very real and substantial financial sacrifices we are making, we wouldn't have the choice we have now, and it may not be economically feasible to continue securing educational choice for our child in the years to come which would force him into a the state school by default which would certainly NOT be our choice.

originally posted by: doclec
a reply to: ketsuko

Its produced by a corperation that makes educational material that is voted into usage by a school board (It is hard to get away from those pesky corporations). And the school board has usually been elected by the public in that area. Most of the school board members are former teachers or education administrators. Look closely at the attributes of people running for school board. They almost always include their education experience as a reason to be elected.

The state is teaching school and yeah, sometimes a corporate candidate makes it onto the board, but usually they are identified, drowned out and removed come next election cycle. The problem now is the corporate candidates disguise themselves very well. They get into the system and start advocating for vouchers and charter schools.

And please, what exactly is a corporate standard? I think some school criteria produces people without critical thinking skills, but they can calculus the hell out of anything. Teaching to the test has to be done away with though, imo

You just keep believing that if it makes you feel better.

Have you actually worked in public education?

If the first word your child echo's is "Wall...Mart?" -- we truly know that the end is close.

originally posted by: Metallicus
Kasich is a supporter of 'Common Core' and a traitor to the state of Ohio in which I live. The problem I see is public education is already broken and I don't want those union clowns educating our youth any more that I do corporations. If I had to start over again I would likely turn to home schooling because you really can't trust anyone to do something right besides yourself.

What you said!

Seriously, home schooling is best, and it isn't as hard as people think. If some can't manage, local schools, funded locally, are a far better choice that funded from anywhere else. We don't want the government doing it, and I don't see big businesses as a better option. Too much power there to trust them. The kids need education, not propaganda.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
If the first word your child echo's is "Wall...Mart?" -- we truly know that the end is close.

We might be OK. Ours had "touchdown" somewhere near the top of his list.

Private Corporation..with an agenda, "educating our kids? Like what? The Department of Education? ... Someone needs an "education" OP.

First of all, our government is not a private corporation. Governments don't have shareholders, and they're not for-profit companies. However, our government's been corrupted by money and the bribery system created by those elected to run the government.

originally posted by: Monteriano
The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a private corporation!!!!! Look it up. If you send your children to a government school, then they are already educated by a private corporation. Might be the reason US children rank in the middle third of the world's education rankings.

What we need is an Education platform patterned after Trump University!!

www.businessinsider.com...

a reply to: JesseVentura

I agree, and this is still relevant.

I believe that private and public education should coexist. Not everyone has the money to help their children.