Beta Uprising - World of warcraft

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Are you aware that people have met their husbands or wives in MMO's? If you can develop the deepest connection possible through a computer screen, I'd say that face-to-face human interaction isn't totally necessary for the social experience.

Sure I am aware of that. Just like I am aware that many more people don't meet on MMO's and still get married, and plenty more that have never played MMO's and don't kill and others that do kill and on and on.

What about the parents who let their kids fester and rot in their own houses from undernourishment because they are so sucked into the game? There have been plenty of those that happened as well.

What I am saying is there is no accountability in a game, kids know this. They can say whatever they want and never have to worry about a consequence. Some may even argue that words can't cause actions, but what about anti-bullying campaigns, and what is one of the main components that seems to tie all mass shootings together....bullying.

When my kids come in from school or playing outside and are visibly upset because of something happening in real life I can actually do something about it....I can talk to the school or the parents or the kid in person.

Truth is, there is nothing that can surpass actual live human interaction and an adult to give them guidance.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

No but a normal person won't start shooting?

originally posted by: Hyperia
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

No but a normal person won't start shooting?

What does that have to do w WoW?

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Just wait until Virtual Reality technology gets good enough to be integrated into MMO's.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Linguistics is the reference, the story which they share, how many DLC packages does the WOW franchise have? Everquest could have done the same, what connects these guys are the wow game not Everquest

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Just wait until Virtual Reality technology gets good enough to be integrated into MMO's.

It could be the end of the world.



Of Warcraft.

a reply to: Hyperia

Yes, but we are talking about two people getting married. Clearly their relationship has developed enough that they find more in common with each other than just WoW.

I disagree that most video games are anti-social. To further reference my WoW days I met several people in the town that I live purely on WoW and then that developed into real world friendships and relationships that I maintain to this day. Several players that I know only online I still keep in touch with from time to time. There are some local friends that have moved so far away to drastically different time zones that the only time it seems I talk them is when I randomly see them online late night.


Now I've always been highly social so perhaps the trend just didn't apply to me. I also know one person with whom I've been friends with from middle school and I don't see him anymore neither does anyone else. He missed both his sisters weddings and my wedding so he could keep playing league of legends. He is a grown man with no bank account,no drivers licence and now it seems no motivation to do anything. So some games effect some people very negatively in the anti-social sense just not all.




a reply to: Vasa Croe

I have played video games since pong, played the original everquest, Star Wars Galaxies, then WoW since beta. I have played at least most of the major MMO releases, still play WoW and HotS, not to mention CoD, GTA and mutliple other genres. I have no urge to go on mass rampages or killings or anything else. Gaming is a hobby, much like photography, hiking, camping etc (which I do as well). I think if people would get off the video game made me do it bandwagon, and look into what that person is missing in life, they may find better, or at least more qualitative answers.

a reply to: tnhiker

Exactly. Bad people exist. People with problems exist. Both categories play video games too.

Well, I should have known you were a Warcraft player going off about such things.

I believe this one lacks merit. Atrocious game too, one of those over commercialized lowest common denominator type games. I'd prefer Pokemon on a Gameboy I think. Probably more interesting lore too.

But you are wrong about magic, know this little one. If you really knew about dragons you'd know that.

Now play your little game to your hearts content because the real game is yet unbeknownst to you; it is quite literally above your head..
A space time anomaly above your head. This is where the real game begins.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yes, come back in an hour re-read your posts

a reply to: TheLaughingGod

Well I'm not, I said this to you many times learn mathematics

a reply to: TheLaughingGod

What snake parabells? Dragon boat parabells? Chinese dragon parabells? Aztec snake parabells? Cleopatra snake parabells? Whaaatt about them? A beta uprising happened in Sweden it will probably bring consequences

a reply to: TheLaughingGod

Who are the dragon riders now? Geez, I hate being in your reality..

originally posted by: Athetos
I disagree that most video games are anti-social. To further reference my WoW days I met several people in the town that I live purely on WoW and then that developed into real world friendships and relationships that I maintain to this day. Several players that I know only online I still keep in touch with from time to time. There are some local friends that have moved so far away to drastically different time zones that the only time it seems I talk them is when I randomly see them online late night.


Now I've always been highly social so perhaps the trend just didn't apply to me. I also know one person with whom I've been friends with from middle school and I don't see him anymore neither does anyone else. He missed both his sisters weddings and my wedding so he could keep playing league of legends. He is a grown man with no bank account,no drivers licence and now it seems no motivation to do anything. So some games effect some people very negatively in the anti-social sense just not all.




a reply to: Vasa Croe

I agree with your assessment completely. I was not trying to say that games are at fault. Games are inherently anti-social in the sense that there is no real life interaction, it is all virtual, and there are no consequences to actions and kids know this. I played WoW, Starcraft, Final Fantasy, Halo, etc...however I was also very social and craved human interaction, playing games with friends was just another way for me to interact with those I knew.

The problem comes when playing the games is the MAIN interaction someone has with society. It deepens the anti-social behavior. I have known people just like the one you described. It is sad to see. Some have a predisposition for this and some just get so caught up in it at a young age that they never learn any different because their parents find it easier for a game to babysit them than to engage their kids.

It isn't rocket science. Take a kid that doesn't play games online and put them in a situation with real people, then take another kid that plays them all the time and put them in a situation with real people. One has had to interact with people, while the other only has to interact with an interface. Which kid would fare better? I can tell you which one based on my interaction with many of the kids my children know, and even with my own kids. The ones that just play games all the time have no sense of interaction with people in real life, they can't tell body language, they can't understand the "feelings" that come from talking to someone in person, they don't understand the cultural differences that are made aware when talking in person, there are so many things they miss out on that can't be learned over the internet or in a game.

I am not dogging games at all....I loved them, but I also see the harm they cause, in general, to a socially geared society where interaction is required in person for most any part of life.

Ok I think that all you guys who are doing the whole

"Vida games is bad Um kay"

Need to stop what you are doing and watch this

Then go Apologize to your kids/family members buy them a nice cpu with some good games and learn to play and embrace technology

Yes I agree there are entire sections of society that are missing the ability to interact social in the physical no doubt. I was trying to say that not all games are bad I didn't mean to make you out as a game basher .



a reply to: Vasa Croe

I think the shootings have a lot more to do with the fractured households of America. Men's roles have been diminished due to feminazis mixed with the PC nanny state where everyones a winner, this mixed with no real parenting and easily influenced kids consuming violence doom and gloom everywhere they turn.

a reply to: Another_Nut

No it's great, I want the story part taken out, don't care if it's mortal kombat or COD I don't want a storyline in a thousand hours game, Nintendo not a single freaking storyline..