Joe Biden is Out

To bad

I was looking forward to Him and Hillary arguing about who told Obama what about Bin Laden.

Biden also said Tuesday that only two people in the meeting were definitive in their advice to the President, contradicting Clinton's account of how she supported the mission.

There were "only two people who were definitive and were absolutely certain," he said, referring to the men who were, respectively, the director of the CIA and the secretary of defense at the time. "Leon Panetta said, 'Go,' and Bob Gates -- who has already publicly said this -- said, 'Don't go.' And others were at 59/41."

In her 2014 book "Hard Choices," Clinton writes that she was an immediate supporter while Biden "remained skeptical."
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CNN

a reply to: stosh64

It's very annoying that pollsters have included Joe in all the polls when he had never announced he was running. We really have no idea now how things are shaping up between Hillary and Bernie.

It would make sense that most of Joe's supporters would go to Hillary, but what if they are moderate Democrats that can't stomach all her baggage. Perhaps, many will turn to Bernie.

The whole idea of polling Joe was ridiculous. His exploratory committee should have been doing internal polls so the voters could have decent polling information.

Sorry for the rant, but I am annoyed.

a reply to: stosh64

So, basically, you've chosen which one you want to believe.

They're both politicians.

originally posted by: Blazemore2000
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

It's just his un-clever way of calling Bernie a socialist.

I was confused, too. I thought it had something to do with the Olympics. Thanks

originally posted by: whyamIhere
That didn't sound like he wasn't running.

After his first sentence...The rest was a Campaign Speech.

originally posted by: Annee
What would he be campaigning for?

That's meant to be a serious question.

IMO, any and all Democrats.

And maybe Himself if Hillary gets burned by the FBI criminal investigation.

I think if Joe had decided to run it would've made things easier for the R's.

originally posted by: Blazemore2000
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

It's just his un-clever way of calling Bernie a socialist.

Not socialist communist seeing how he said Bernie would go to his home in Russia.

Not surprised. Clinton has had this race in the bag pretty much since she announced her run. While many people do not like Clinton and would love to vote for someone else, too many cannot get past the idea of a self-described socialist or a Republican in the office. I'd like to see Sanders win, but that is not going to happen in my opinion.

Perhaps if the GOP was not the party of nutters and theocratic loons, they would be able to pull some votes from the Dems, but that is not going to happen this time around.

originally posted by: introvert
Not surprised. Clinton has had this race in the bag pretty much since she announced her run. While many people do not like Clinton and would love to vote for someone else, too many cannot get past the idea of a self-described socialist or a Republican in the office. I'd like to see Sanders win, but that is not going to happen in my opinion.

Perhaps if the GOP was not the party of nutters and theocratic loons, they would be able to pull some votes from the Dems, but that is not going to happen this time around.

I agree with you.

The Dems need a tough ass experienced candidate that will not back down to the Right Wing.

This country is going to heII in a handbasket...

As of this moment, there's not a single candidate from any party that is running that, IMESHO, deserves a single vote. But, fortunately... at least for now, I don't see any of them winning.

I kinda like the idea of NO president from this menagerie.

Here's an idea:
Let's build a fire down by the river, roast up some good stuff.
From there, we can share some brew and pretend like we're all Americans again.

Oh... and somebody please, bring a football and a frisbee!

originally posted by: Blazemore2000
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

It's just his un-clever way of calling Bernie a socialist.

originally posted by: buster2010
Not socialist communist seeing how he said Bernie would go to his home in Russia.

Oh! Got it! Thanks. LOL! Regardless what he is personally, the US will never be a socialist or communist country.

To be completely honest, I don't think Bernie will win, but I support him. I tend to agree with Annee. We need someone tough who will stand up to the right-wing (what are they calling themselves now? the Freedom Caucus?)

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: whyamIhere
That didn't sound like he wasn't running.

After his first sentence...The rest was a Campaign Speech.

What would he be campaigning for?

That's meant to be a serious question.

Sounded like if Hillary should fail.

Ole' Joe will be waiting...

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: stosh64

So, basically, you've chosen which one you want to believe.

They're both politicians.

Please show me where I was inclined to believe either one from this statement.

I was looking forward to Him and Hillary arguing about who told Obama what about Bin Laden.

Please explain the mental process that brought you to conclude I believe one or the other??

I support NO candidate. Left OR right.

It is ALL BS. This is why I usually avoid political threads anymore. It is pointless getting between the cheerleaders of BOTH sides.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

What if they can't stand either and break for Donald?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: MotherMayEye

What if they can't stand either and break for Donald?

You honestly think Donald can get the GOP nomination?

I have to wonder why even democrats don't want to continue the Obama administrations policies.

a reply to: ketsuko

Haha! Could be!

But, it's annoying that we have to wait until the next polls to find out what's what.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: yeahright

Sorry, I don't even know what that means...

A dacha is like a cottage or cabin in Russian, and Sochi is where the Winter Olympics were held. Russia used to be a Communist country.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I have to wonder why even democrats don't want to continue the Obama administrations policies.

They don't?

a reply to: introvert

I hate to admit, but you're probably right. The electoral college is locked for the Democrats, so they'll likely take the WH no matter what the GOP does. So what this means is ... Hillary or Bernie for our next POTUS?

They'll try everything they can to convince us that Hillary is more popular and doing better, but from what I've seen more registered Democrats like Bernie.

Check it out:

On Nov. 8, 2016, Clinton will start — start — with a minimum 247 of the 270 electoral votes she needs to win. If you give her Colorado and Virginia — which many political strategists would, given the Hispanic population in one and the rising influence of the northern-centered population in the other — she’ll start with 269. That means Clinton doesn’t need Ohio or Florida. She just needs one small state like Iowa, Nevada or New Hampshire to put her over the edge. And because she’s got a boatload of money and no viable primary challenger, she’ll have plenty of time and resources to lock up at least one of those states.

Unless there's a 5-10% shift in the popular vote, Hillary has 2016 in the bag. The Democratic party is doing everything it can to keep Bernie from getting the nomination, they're doing their version of what the GOP did to Ron Paul essentially.