New images from New Horizons: Pluto is a beautiful new mystery!

originally posted by: ZakOlongapo
a reply to: jaffo

what education do You have? ... did You even read what i write?
"fly by Pluto and take perfect true color photographs then return them to Earth?" hahahaha
NASA can't do that was my point my ATS friend

take Your time xx

You should work on your trolling. It's pretty much grade school level.

originally posted by: ZakOlongapo
a reply to: ArMaP

so... we actually will never know how those places looks in real colors?

That's not what I said, I was talking about what I prefer.

even low resolution real colors...

New horizons has a lower resolution camera that can take colour photos.

so they spend all budget and cant include one simple cam of size of my watch so we can back on Earth see the place the way we will see it over there? hmm... ok

A camera the size of your watch would be useless, the lower resolution camera weighs more than 10 kg.

The problem with colour photography is there's little to balance and calibrate the colours to. If I take a picture with my camera phone looking at some daisies outside they will look white, if i pick them and take them indoors they will look grey, if I turn on the light they will look yellow. If I put them on a white background they will look cream and if I put them on a black background there will be hints of green. So what colour are the daisies?

It's much more efficient to use a single monochromatic camera and pass filters over the lense, now we know the colour of the filters on earth and can build a composite of the different images to determine the colour of what we're looking at in a whole range of different conditions. We can also get an idea of the different elements present by using specific filters - all from one camera instead of 20.

originally posted by: boymonkey74
Lovely pics does anyone else want to lick it? or is it just me?.

Its so funny you say that, it DOES look like some kind of ice cream dessert.

Crow Images vs NASA Images - Pluto is Only at Disneyland

originally posted by: ZakOlongapo
Crow Images vs NASA Images - Pluto is Only at Disneyland

Not sure what you're trying to say by posting this image. Pluto, compared to Jupiter, is an extremely small and faint "dot". The only way to see it in any real detail is to send a spacecraft towards it, which is exactly what NASA did.

If you can get a few million dollars and an expert mission team together to send your own spacecraft to Pluto, more power to you!

a reply to: wildespace

no wonder You do believe NASA if You don't know the difference between VIDEO and PICTURE

here i have one more very interesting VIDEO for You

originally posted by: ZakOlongapo
a reply to: wildespace

no wonder You do believe NASA

I don't belive NASA per se, I belive the advances we (humans) made in exploration of the Solar System and the universe, employing hundreds of years of research and technology which, by the way, you use in your every-day life, probably without even realising it. NASA are just an American space agency, they do their bit in science and space exploration, but so do many other organisations around the world. Anti-mainstreamers tend to put too much weight into NASA, forgetting that knowledge about space doesn't rest on their shoulders alone.

Speaking of the ISS, how is it that amateur astronomers with their telescope + camera set-up were able to capture the ISS in detail, even spotting the astronauts out on a spacewalk? www.wired.com...

a reply to: wildespace

... maybe look at this website. there is something to read and think about... and start researching in deep xx
www.wildheretic.com...

a reply to: wildespace

btw the guy Ralf Vandebergh who made those pics is on paylist of:
Space Safety Magazine – Universe Today and Wired and NBC News and NASA Science News

that means he belong to the BIG CLUB


means he is not the amateur... so where are those thousands of amateurs pictures of the same thing(ISS)? there are non xx

a reply to: wildespace

this thread is about this > Pluto is a beautiful new mystery!

the point i am making from beginning is that now NASA is giving us pictures of Pluto(short time a go it was not even planet for them)
and in same time WE HAVE NO ONE REAL PICTURE OF THE EARTH FOR DECADES? something do not line up here...

originally posted by: openminded2011

originally posted by: boymonkey74
Lovely pics does anyone else want to lick it? or is it just me?.

Its so funny you say that, it DOES look like some kind of ice cream dessert.

maybe its made out of swisscheese like the others

originally posted by: ZakOlongapo
a reply to: wildespace

this thread is about this > Pluto is a beautiful new mystery!

the point i am making from beginning is that now NASA is giving us pictures of Pluto(short time a go it was not even planet for them)
and in same time WE HAVE NO ONE REAL PICTURE OF THE EARTH FOR DECADES? something do not line up here...

You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

Pluto is still not real planet not just for NASA, but for rest of humanity, and someone here on this very topic explained why. It's dwarf planet, has its moon (while 2 real planets have none) and still is not on list.

We have plenty of pictures of earth, space, moon, other planets and not just from NASA, but including also from NASA.

It was more then once explained here that pictures are black and white for a reason, and filters are applied later.

You can believe that IIS is in Hollywood basement and what not, but page you posted here is funny, reason is that they even point to NASA explanation why images are like that and why do we enhance them for better view...

BTW, you are not making any points... just funny claims...

originally posted by: ZakOlongapo
a reply to: wildespace

this thread is about this > Pluto is a beautiful new mystery!

the point i am making from beginning is that now NASA is giving us pictures of Pluto(short time a go it was not even planet for them)
and in same time WE HAVE NO ONE REAL PICTURE OF THE EARTH FOR DECADES? something do not line up here...

Putting some lego bricks together to look similar to an airplane does not make you a plane engineer.

What does this mean?

WE HAVE NO ONE REAL PICTURE OF THE EARTH FOR DECADES?

I just took one outside my door?

a reply to: SuperFrog

sorry man, but we do not have plenty REAL single pictures of planet Earth.... the only single pic is from Apollo 17. All the others are composits , cgi or other tehnics )
Why?
.. i bet i know Your answer already.
i know even what NASA's answer is.

i just can't take it. with all the budget and all those missions across the solar system no single pic of The Earth for over 4o years. hmm, ok...

originally posted by: ZakOlongapo
a reply to: SuperFrog

sorry man, but we do not have plenty REAL single pictures of planet Earth.... the only single pic is from Apollo 17. All the others are composits , cgi or other tehnics )
Why?
.. i bet i know Your answer already.
i know even what NASA's answer is.

i just can't take it. with all the budget and all those missions across the solar system no single pic of The Earth for over 4o years. hmm, ok...

There's tons of photos of Earth from the ISS, taken with regular DSLRs like Nikon: eol.jsc.nasa.gov...
...including many out-of-focus/blurry/noisy images which, to me at least, shows that they weren't faked using cgi.

As for composite images, that's how digital photography works - sensors only see in b&w and need a combination of red, green, and blue filters to produce a true-colour image. Your own camera does it automatically, but in space they prefer to use a "naked" sensor and a filter wheel. This allows them to produce not only regular colour images, but also narrow-band images and infrared or UV images.

So how is it that you seem to know better than the actual engineers and scientists that work on these space missions?

a reply to: wildespace

ISS is not in space even they call it space station. ISS is in Exosphere of earth around 400km up. and i know pics from ISS.
that is not my point. the thing is we The Humans from The Planet Earth with all tech and space agencies, we do not have real pic of the whole glob Our Home Planet. the one we "supposed" to have is over 40 years old. strange to me.
plus hard to wrap my mind around the fact that from 1969 till 1972 we humans go to the Moon 6 times. and now 40+ years not even one time. cos it is expensive? cos there is no reason going back or other crap? that is all very interesting and questionable for me...
but we are having pic of Pluto now, budget eating mission from 2006. Ha. that is so cool

originally posted by: ZakOlongapo
a reply to: wildespace

ISS is not in space even they call it space station. ISS is in Exosphere of earth around 400km up. and i know pics from ISS.
that is not my point. the thing is we The Humans from The Planet Earth with all tech and space agencies, we do not have real pic of the whole glob Our Home Planet. the one we "supposed" to have is over 40 years old. strange to me.
plus hard to wrap my mind around the fact that from 1969 till 1972 we humans go to the Moon 6 times. and now 40+ years not even one time. cos it is expensive? cos there is no reason going back or other crap? that is all very interesting and questionable for me...
but we are having pic of Pluto now, budget eating mission from 2006. Ha. that is so cool

If you sound like you type then you are from Eastern Europe, "we humans" are unfortunately bound by the countries we live in, so while an International Space Station exists, "we humans" dont have a collective agency. So we never went to the moon, America did, you never went to the moon and have never been farther than a balloon.

I dont know what your agenda is, but its all over the place.

a reply to: Forensick

my agenda is "question everything"
and to be honest i am not 100% sure that USA land on the moon.
but 100% sure that Hollywood did many times
and
Avatar Director Helps NASA With Mars Cameras
it is so cool, right? it smells a bit xx

and yes i am originally from east EU

a reply to: ZakOlongapo

Geostationary satellites take pictures of the whole globe (to be more precise, the side that is always facing them) on a regular basis. They monitor the weather, vegetation, fires, our impact on nature, and many other things. I'm sure you have seen the recent image of the whole Earth from the "EPIC" camera aboard a new spaceraft that's sitting in the L2 point between Earth and the Sun. The image is a composite, true, but only for the reasons I explained in my previous post (red, green, and blue filters making up a true-colour image).

Questioning things is good, but all I see in your posts is kicking and screaming like a stubborn little child that refuses to accept the explanation and reasoning.