Local DRILLs on Very Same Day as Terror ATTACKs- Coincidence or.. Conspiracy?

in each instance - if any - it's either one or the other. aint it? it's either pure coincidence, or the 'attack' was to some degree planned/orchestrated to occur concurrent with the drill or to set an objective parameter, on the 'same day' as the scheduled drill.

i'm just a few weeks new to ATS, so i beg u pardon for not having a ready list of attacks that did occur on the same day as a scheduled local preparedness drill.

to me, they do overall, seem to go hand in hand. generally, of course. but yes, my impression is more often than not. that's indeed my 'hypothesis'. as to why that is -if it is- i'm to new to the 'conspiracy' arena to make conclusion(s) on the psychology and/or goals of the conspirator(s).

drills. they're pretty common all around. the first ones i recall were back in kindergarten we'd have fire drills where we'd line up and be escorted down the steps and out to a safe distance from the school building, and quake drills where we'd get under our desks or if in between classrooms, under the reinforcement of doorways.

nowadays, drills seem to have really progressed to full blown masses of military personnel in uniform sometimes in tankers and with warfare equipment right on city streets. whenever i see these, there's an eery sense that 'something' really is going to happen. here on the west coast, luckily that hasn't happened (yet). but on the east coast, there's been an instance where i was on contract work in the local area (same city), aware of a drill and a major terror attack *did* happen. i suppose that comes with being in a career that required frequent travel between LAX & LGA/JFK =/

what i do recollect and is par for course is the moment we hear that a drill will happen on so and so date, we make at least a mental note to expect to see authorities and their vehicles around, to give more some time stuck in traffic, etc. and on that day, feel 'off-guard' and safe cuz of all the authorities present; not likely the day going to get mugged or car radio stolen in broad daylight or anything! or to pay attention to suspicious activity cuz its all likely part of the staging/props/actors etc!

i find it peculiar actual terrorists would strike on days the exact location is already swarming with officials ready to pounce and dont buy the excuse that 'DRILLS ARE HAPPENING ALL THE TIME' cuz for any given local area, drills aren't happening every day/week/month of the year. but, what's ur take? (granted, the argument can be made that terrorists prefer drill days so that they blend into the actors, fake blood, unattended bags, bomb blasts, fleeing extras, etc)

is there a list or something already on the web of terror attacks that occurred on the very same day as drills? pray share! thx

and yes i can fathom due to the loss of life/limbs and traumatic nature of the events for both victims/survivors and loved ones, everyone should be sensitive to these attacks especially because even if there is a correlation, doesn't mean fellow Americans/Earthlings were nevertheless.. terrorized.

Due to the massive number of emergency/military/etc. drills that take place at various locations every day, it's a given that there will be some rare instances in which actual events occur during or near the time of some drill.

If you were to gather data and do some statistical analysis on how many events occurred during a drill and how many drills happened without incident, I really doubt the results would show anything unexpected.

a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

That's called plausible deniability.

Maybe.

Some "drills" are triggered by real events.

Fox Lake might one recent example.

‘G.I. Joe’ Shooting: Massive Multi-Agency, Martial Law Drill Underway in Fox Lake, Illinois (PHOTOS)

The Army rarely lets you just loll around the base aimlessly. It's ALWAYS a drill. Or an FTX, or some sort of training you'd rather not have.

If they run out of other crap for you to do, you end up cleaning things.

So, yes, it would be an odd odd time for any military base to NOT be running, planning, or analyzing the recent results of some sort of drill. It's how they spend their spare time. At any time something happens in a locale, I would bet an internet Coke that a drill was going on at any local area military base. Of some sort.

a reply to: Sovan

Don't know of any consolidated list, but I bet someone here can help. Can't really remember off the top my head. I think there was a drill 911 that had air force planes well out of the area and couldn't mount a great air response because of it. Again we have members that have put a lot of time into topics like that and could say. But actually I would be interested in a chart with a side by side rundown so anyone has a link or puts one together. Please share it.

a reply to: Reallyfolks

That had nothing to do with the response. The fighters that responded were part of the alert force. They never take part in any exercise and are essentially a separate entity to the rest of the fighters on that base.

On 9/11, because of cuts made in the 90s, there were seven bases with fighters standing alert. Two on the east coast, two on the west coast, and three in the south and southwestern region. There were between 2 and 4 aircraft at each base, so at most there were 28 aircraft to defend the entire continental United States. To arm more aircraft from a cold start would take between 90 minutes and 3 hours.

In what way would a planned attack benefit from occurring during a scheduled drill? I’m not sure I’m following whatever it is you’re suggesting.


a reply to: Sovan

a reply to: RankleRave

On 9/11 there was some initial confusion whether the report of hijackings from the FAA was part of the exercise or if it was real.

we've had threads about Military drills, new equipment/vehicle testing all summer so having some 'pre-planned' scripted events happening and reported in the media this past month is not a huge surprise
a few of the events look like staged events for tv news propaganda

A number of earthquakes have happened near or during drills too.

If I had the time, I would like to put together a list and then see if their is a statistical correlation. There seems to be but I don't have the exact numbers.

originally posted by: Bedlam
The Army rarely lets you just loll around the base aimlessly. It's ALWAYS a drill. Or an FTX, or some sort of training you'd rather not have.

If they run out of other crap for you to do, you end up cleaning things.

So, yes, it would be an odd odd time for any military base to NOT be running, planning, or analyzing the recent results of some sort of drill. It's how they spend their spare time. At any time something happens in a locale, I would bet an internet Coke that a drill was going on at any local area military base. Of some sort.

Great answer.
And if you were with SAC @ Malmstrom AFB you would know this is the gospel. Gotta keep the birds clean . Cant pop the lid and fire one all dirty and stuff. How would that look ?

a reply to: Zaphod58

The original convienently/horribly timed drill. That one was special though.
In everyones' face perfect.

a reply to: lightedhype

And it didn't make any difference either way.

I've sometimes wondered if the drills aren't scheduled to coincide with some intel of when an attack "might" be happening.

a reply to: eluryh22

Military exercises are planned well in advance. Some of them are planned up to two years before they take place. They may expand the scope of them but they don't just throw them together.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I understand that.

I simply meant if drill-X was scheduled for mid-summer 20XX, and a somewhat credible tip that something is going to happen a few weeks before/after the originally scheduled date, I wouldn't be surprised if the drill would be rescheduled to have assets in the immediate area. Again, it's just something I've wondered about. Nothing that I'm charging as matter of fact or anything.

a reply to: Sovan
I often see people make the same observation about school shootings...
But think about it...You're standard Terrorist attack would not require pre-emptive measures like having the military occupy city streets as you put it. It doesn't make sense for me to have a drill for a terrorist attack~ Who knows, there might be something else threatening coming to America but not in the form of Islamic Extremism.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: eluryh22

Military exercises are planned well in advance. Some of them are planned up to two years before they take place. They may expand the scope of them but they don't just throw them together.

im thinking same can be said for terror attacks. esp ones involving bombs, planted guns to access later, well, anything aside from truly spontaneous single-person person shooting sprees require some planning.

come to think if it, tis quite likely a hired actor/participant can be framed as the 'terrorist'; esp if we don't hear their side of the story that's pretty much an admission from authorities that authorities were behind it all to meet whatever their agenda, not the double-crossed participant.