The new fascism

originally posted by: openminded2011

There are two things we can do. One is practice kindness. The other is practice compassion.

I disagree. We've been told, by various individuals and institutions, that kindness and compassion are the answers for thousands of years.

We're still slaves. I wonder why.

Neo-liberalism is actually an economic school not a political one. Just google it. Translated it means everything is allowed to - well not humans, but corporations. Hand in hand it goes with neoconservatism which is a political ideology in the West.
So there's great confusion here.
PC was as a term an invention of neoconservative think tanks - just look at what it means: political correctness - as if someone dictated how things should be. Well, no one dictates things - we're trying to be polite because we can't change the growing exploitation and the racism and so on. It is actually the Koch brothers that are trying to dictate things and Rupert Murdoch, and not the people who simply have a growing dislike of this economic cheat-game that Roosevelt was tring to prevent. They do try to dictate various stuff as long as it does not touch their dear dollars. Obama is a Muslim, a foreign-born traitor for the followers of Limbaugh. Well if anyone, he uses stuff that could be called rightly political correctness.
Under the new right wing rule, calling cripples handicapped people is supposed to be - political correctness. The term itself is a lie. Of course trying to be collectively polite to disenfranchised groups is at time awkward. But it's still better than the "call a spade a spade" feeling which is the dominant sound in the "anti-PC" right wing paranoia that is so rampant these days.
Under the new right wing rule, if you are not an outright Fascist of the Mussolini or Pinochet type, you are supposed to be a Socialist.

So debate if you want, with an open mind. But look after how terms have been used and who poisoned the well. You'll be surprised.

a reply to: openminded2011

Instead of acting like lemmings, we need to QUESTION THE VALIDITY of things that we hear, especially on the internet

Lol, nice subtle jab at a deceptive documentary. I know the "victims" are just lemmings, but the way people treat animals is indicative of their mentality. Killing animals simply to create an illusion...

Anyway, good post. Something is definitely happening in our country, and a storm is brewing. We can already see the thunder clouds off in the distance.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: openminded2011

You can say what ever you want, just know that people are breaking away from the old views and will voice their opinion right back at ya.

So you are still allowed to say what ever you want.
Just don't act like what you say has no consequence.
We live in a social media age, so when you blast your opinions to millions of people, you might get some people that don't agree with you.

If you are allowed to say whatever you want and it has a consequence, thats EXACTLY what I mean. If you cannot say something without reprisal, you are NOT allowed to say whatever you want.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

You are certainly allowed to have an opinion on global warming. It cuts both ways.

a reply to: openminded2011

By that definition then nobody has ever been able to say what they want and to whom without the chance of reprisal have they?

2000 years ago to say you were a christian in the middle east was a death sentence (as it still is in some places!!!!!!!!!!)

Walk down any Martin Luther King Jr road saying racist stuff (if your white) or do the same down south in a redneck bar (if you coloured)

Call most men's wife a slut/ugly fat bitch etc and see if they don't slap you.

You get my point?

edit to add:

You have the right to free speech but if you offend people with that speech then expect reprisal - trouble is different things offend different people

You can call me any names you like and I won't hit you but others would - the laws of assault cover this.

I'm glad you brought up these two examples.
Racism is a fresh wound, like the Holocaust. We still have many millions of people in the US who could be free and prosperous (even rich and/or respected) instead of poor, devoid of a constructive life pattern for generations upon generations of Jim Crowism. And since the New Depression, millions of black people in the US are down again - hence the violent reaction to the police affairs.
Plus in the whole wide world ... in Europe we have sharp fences against colored immigrants now, people shooting brown color Gypsies for racial terror, and the entire continent of Africa, home of most black people's ancestors, ripped off - though we sell them our arms and buy their minerals for our mobile phones. From places worse than the worst nightmares of Europe, though not as industrially efficient.

Slut etc... well, exactly how much women make compared to men everywhere except two or three Scandinavian countries?

I can be snubbed or called names for having Christian ancestors in my country of birth, Hungary. I would not be really hurt. I was called a goy in a Jewish family in America (under friendly terms). I resented that a little but let it go.

However, I would think fifteen thousand times before I would ever call a Jewish fellow who acts in a disgusting way "a disgusting Jew" in Central Europe. Because my friend, in this place, the holocaust still has not been processed, many people from the majority society assent or voice Nazi-like views, and the majority society is white and Christian.

I would probably think the same way about a racist slur towards Arabs if I lived in Israel, but the situation is vastly different here.

PC - linguistically it exists though politically it is a misnomer - it might appear as a band aid over a cancerous wound plus it may be pretty stilted at times. I sort of disliked it when I had to start suddenly calling black people in the US African-Americans, partly because it's damn long, partly because they didn't call themselves that. But the direction isn't bad. History shows that language does evolve like that from generation to generation.

A hundred years ago an educated Englishman was supposed to call Indian people pagan idolaters. Now we have Indian scientists, engineers and doctors in leading places of the world...

"When Tyranny comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross" HLM

I think this also applies to the Oligarchical Corporate Fascism coming to a country near you....

People will not wake up in time. This will be their doom. Most of humanity will die.

Forget the promise of technology.

The same way you are free to fly the Confederate battle flag.
It hasn't been outlawed.
There is however some hashtag movement to steal them and often beat the owner of said flag senseless.
Yeah, that's freedom baby!

If you are willing to live with the consequences.
Or spend the rest of your life unemployed or in a coma.
Fascism never goes away entirely, it waits for the right movement to come along and fill it with righteous indignation.
That's key there, watch out for the righteous indignation.

One thing about the fascists, they are snappy dressers! All that goose stepping and Heil, Heil...Oooh! Tre Fabulous!

I made no threat, all I said is that you can't just say what want and expect no backlash.

a reply to: Sremmos80


nuff said

a reply to: openminded2011

We are also being denied the redress of grievances....for instance I just heard on talk radio today the son of Irwin Schiff talking about his dad who is in jail for the last 10 years for writing a book called The Federal Mafia.....and also for not paying taxes....