Texas facing an increase in unwanted pregnancies

a reply to: ketsuko

Using that excuse is like hiding all the abortions of convenience behind the excuses of rape, medical necessity and incest which really make up about 5% of the abortions.

And even Planned Parenthood's services are 97% well woman check ups, contraceptives, etc. Only 3% are elective abortions.

And there is NO GOVERNMENT FUNDING of those abortions. Has never been.

"Your money" is not paying for people's abortions. The people who have them are paying for them.

Multiple politicians and media outlets have been invoking, in the wake of this fake scandal, the idea that “taxpayer funded abortions” are taking place at Planned Parenthood and this means the organization should be defunded.

This is a lie, full stop.
The Hyde Amendment, which was passed in 1976, prevents federal money from funding abortion.

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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

And even Planned Parenthood's services are 97% well woman check ups, contraceptives, etc. Only 3% are elective abortions.

The impact of the "3%" is greater than the impact of the "97%"

And I personally don't trust a "self audit" from PP.

a reply to: xuenchen

Who said anything about a "self audit"?

Abortion is legal, and lawful, and necessary. Unless you personally want to support the babies their parents don't want/can't afford.

What is it with all you people who think we need MORE PEOPLE?

We don't need "more people". The first trimester is an 'embryo', not a fetus. Not a baby.

originally posted by: ChiefD


But I am a mere woman. A woman who feels It's nobody's damn business what I want to do with my body.

I always wonder the same thing, it seems that for some out there they can not live without having their neck up to a women reproductive organs at every moment, I guess when their lives have not meaning, they have to live somebody else life.

people should mind their own damn business alright.

originally posted by: Mugly

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Mugly

True, but it's better to have it there should they need or want it than to not have it at all. Call that pragmatic if nothing else, eh?

i agree.
it certainly does not hurt.
still though. cant cure stupid

cant cure stupid

No , but our government feverishly tries to legislate all versions of stupid . What , people die crossing the street because they are too stupid to look both ways? Lets give the pedestrians the right-of-way .

Just an example.

a reply to: [post=19661929]ketsuko[/post

I guess you are the expert.

originally posted by: grandmakdw

originally posted by: Bovah2
How about people just stop having sex without a condom or birth control medicine if they don't want the risk of having a baby?

If a woman wants to poke around in herself with a bent rusty coat hanger, let her. If she wants to ingest some foreign mystery pill to hopefully abort, let her.

If you can't control your own body and actions, by showing some restaraint when you have no condoms, or no money to afford condoms, then sorry, but you get what you deserve.

Keep your # in your pants, problem solved.

TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS.
STOP LOOKING FOR A GOVERNMENT BAILOUT!

Darwin rules!

The people who refuse to keep it in their pants when they don't have a condom or birth control.

Well if the women are stupid enough to abort with coat hangers,
one less person that far down on the Darwinian chain.

Seriously, if you have no problem with babies dying,
why would you have a problem with women so stupid
they can't say no and have zero self control or any
willingness to take personal responsibility,
why would you have a problem with them taking
the Darwin leap?

Cold, yes, but if you love abortion,
you should have no problem with
self abortion through stupidity
that could end in the blob of
tissue formerly known as
ex-mom falling off the Darwinian cliff.
Whats the difference to the pro-abortion supporter,
one less person overpopulating the world?

Seriously, the pro-abortion people seem
to think that no one should take any responsibility for
their actions, and that everyone should be getting it on
like rabbits, because we can't expect any human
being to exercise any kind of self-control.
That's what I seem to hear the pro-abortion crowd say.
All people are so stupid they must have sex, it is
required to have sex with anyone and everyone
all the time, and no one should ever, ever, be
expected to exercise good judgement and use
a condom or keep their pants on, that is too much
to expect of any human being.

Seriously, you are way off the mark here! I am pro choice, not pro abortion.

Why do people assume things? You don't know me at all. I would love to see women with unwanted pregnancies give up their babies for adoption. I would also love to see unicorns fart rainbows, but that ain't gonna happen. This is the real world. Welcome to reality.

Less rhetoric, more common sense solutions. But those of you who are conservative don't want any of that.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
You might also be interested in this article.

The Rise of the DIY Abortion in Texas

back to the good ole' Christian days

a reply to: grandmakdw

I would dare say there are very few, if any, pro-abortion people in this country. And if there are I would also dare say they are probably not the ones you accuse and target here.

Love abortion? What kind of hyperbole is this now?

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: Annee

It can't hurt to have more than ONE option available to men. Women have spermicides, diaphrams, IUDs, pills, implants, shots, nuvaring...

Men have: condom.

Or a vasectomy....I had mine at 20 yrs of age. I knew then that kids just simply didn't fit in to my lifestyle. I have never regretted not having kids!

you are a lucky one then.
a great deal of doctors will not perform a vasectomy unless the guy is a certain age or has x amount of kids.
just dont work that way.

anne, what is your problem?
you seem bitter towards men

why would it be a bad thing for men to have more than one option

a reply to: Mugly

a great deal of doctors will not perform a vasectomy unless the guy is a certain age or has x amount of kids.

Is that true? I thought vasectomies were reversible.

a reply to: windword

When my husband had his vasectomy, they wanted to know how many kids he had, and asked him if he was truly ready. He had two kids, and was done, in his 30's. He was told it was not reversible.

Now I have heard it may be reversible, but not easy or guaranteed.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Mugly

a great deal of doctors will not perform a vasectomy unless the guy is a certain age or has x amount of kids.

Is that true? I thought vasectomies were reversible.

It depends on the surgical technique used IIRC.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: grandmakdw

I would dare say there are very few, if any, pro-abortion people in this country. And if there are I would also dare say they are probably not the ones you accuse and target here.

Love abortion? What kind of hyperbole is this now?

Thanks for your post. I cannot stand people like that, criticizing and judging people they don't know.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't lob rocks.

a reply to: windword

not in the habit of lying so yeah, its true
too many guys were jumping on the vasectomy train young and then going back to get it reversed and that is not a guarantee.

i tried to get one when i was 25. i had 1 kid and the doc wouldnt do it.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask


Awww, you look sad. Here's your cookie.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask


Awww, you look sad. Here's your cookie.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Mugly

a great deal of doctors will not perform a vasectomy unless the guy is a certain age or has x amount of kids.

Is that true? I thought vasectomies were reversible.

I think we'd need to research latest info.

I know I've read about a valve that can be turned on and off. Don't know for sure if that ever happened.

Still - - - easier then tying a woman's tubes - - - and pretty sure harvesting sperm is easier then harvesting an egg.

www.newmalecontraception.org...