Left Wing, Right Wing: Who Gives a %&$#

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Have you noticed that no-one is for anything, anymore.

They're all against something.

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Have you noticed that no-one is for anything, anymore.

They're all against something.

You too?

You used "they."

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Have you noticed that no-one is for anything, anymore.

They're all against something.

I'm for peace.
I'm for equality.
I'm for love.
I'm for choice.
I'm for pure food and water for all.
I'm for affordable, accessible healthcare.
I'm for affordable, quality education for all.
I'm for respecting trees and wildlife.
I'm for real justice.
I'm for respect when it's earned.
I'm for more thinking and listening.
I'm for cooperation and compromise.
I'm for laws against usury.
I'm for hard work.
I'm for taking care of those who can't take care of themselves.
I'm for live and let live as long as no one gets tangibly hurt.
I'm for second chances.
I'm for...a lot of things...

Not sure where you're looking.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Awww ... poop.

There you go again, demolishing empty generalizations!

Reality bites.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Have you noticed that no-one is for anything, anymore.

They're all against something.

I'm for peace.
I'm for equality.
I'm for love.
I'm for choice.
I'm for pure food and water for all.
I'm for affordable, accessible healthcare.
I'm for affordable, quality education for all.
I'm for respecting trees and wildlife.
I'm for real justice.
I'm for respect when it's earned.
I'm for more thinking and listening.
I'm for cooperation and compromise.
I'm for laws against usury.
I'm for hard work.
I'm for taking care of those who can't take care of themselves.
I'm for live and let live as long as no one gets tangibly hurt.
I'm for second chances.
I'm for...a lot of things...

Not sure where you're looking.

It's awesome that YOU are for those things.

And if you ended that there, it'd be good.

But don't you advocate that government should do those things instead?

a reply to: beezzer

I don't think that's true at all, people are for and against lots of things, not just against.

I'm sure there's one thing we all have in common though, and that is that we are all FOR freedom and security for our families. Being at each other's throats and putting blame on arbitrary sides is going against that mentality.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

I could care less what people do in their lives.

When they impact my life?

I tend to be outspoken.

a reply to: Gryphon66

How are you conservative?

What qualities do you adhere to that would typify you as conservative?

a reply to: beezzer

I don't think anyone's opinion impacts your life though, the only impact is the one that you allow it to have. We're all in this together, party lines and bipartisanship divides us and makes us against one another. Like I said, a mentality like that makes this a house divided and a house divided cannot stand. If you want this house to stand you throw bipartisanship to the side and find that common ground.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Maybe I'm wrong here. Not sure you can have both freedom and security. You can be completely free to do what you want but does that then affect someone else's security? Also maybe you can be completely secure, but will that affect someone else's freedom? It maybe possible to do both but until the hearts of all individuals change not sure they can co exist. Then again maybe I am full of it.

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Gryphon66

How are you conservative?

What qualities do you adhere to that would typify you as conservative?

What? Did I say that? Did you respond to the right message?

To answer your question, I'm conservative to the extent that I think governments should operate in the black, and apply the maxim of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

Now, are you in the group that you described as being "all against something"?

If not, what are you for exactly?

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Opinions don't impact my life.

But those who vote for people who write laws that would impact my life, I have issue with.

Government feeds off of that.

Both sides do it.

I'd like to see an election where a candidate won by 85% instead of 51%.

a reply to: beezzer

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America

originally posted by: Reallyfolks
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Maybe I'm wrong here. Not sure you can have both freedom and security. You can be completely free to do what you want but does that then affect someone else's security? Also maybe you can be completely secure, but will that affect someone else's freedom? It maybe possible to do both but until the hearts of all individuals change not sure they can co exist. Then again maybe I am full of it.

Perhaps balance is more important than absolutism?

First thing that popped into my mind, reading your post.

a reply to: Gryphon66

I'm for freedom.
I'm for personal responsibility.
I'm for giving the government less, and having the people keep more of their own money.
I'm for the rights of all people. Religious, gay, unborn. . . everyone.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: beezzer

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America

What great and stirring words!

Someone should really write that down.

Oh, wait, someone did.

Someone should really read that once in a while!

originally posted by: Gryphon66

To answer your question, I'm conservative to the extent that I think governments should operate in the black, and apply the maxim of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

So you are for less taxes?

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Gryphon66

I'm for freedom.
I'm for personal responsibility.
I'm for giving the government less, and having the people keep more of their own money.
I'm for the rights of all people. Religious, gay, unborn. . . everyone.

Thanks for your answer!

But ... don't you and Lucidity call into serious question your postulate posted here ...

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Have you noticed that no-one is for anything, anymore.

They're all against something.

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Gryphon66

To answer your question, I'm conservative to the extent that I think governments should operate in the black, and apply the maxim of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."

So you are for less taxes?

Isn't everyone?



I have yet to met the person who jumps for joy at a tax raise

a reply to: Gryphon66

Wouldn't disagree at all. That balance seems to be the mythical unicorn of our current state of affairs. Thanks for reply