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The 9/11 Consensus Panel ( consensus911.org... ) : 24 expert members of the international three-year-old 9/11 Consensus Panel have developed 44 Consensus Points of “best evidence” opposing the official account of 9/11. The Panel respondents remain blind to one another throughout a rigorous reviewing process. Included in their studies are the surprising activities of the military and political leaders that day. The consensus process has yielded an unprecedented degree of credibility for specific points of evidence relating to 9/11.
The 44 Consensus Points are divided into ten categories , which in turn link to the individual 44 points. These are the 7 points regarding WTC-7 in category C :
C. Consensus Points about the Collapse of World Trade Center 7
Point WTC7-1: The Claim that WTC 7 Collapsed from Fire Alone
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Point WTC7-2: The Claim in NIST’s Draft Report that WTC 7 Did Not Come Down at Free Fall Acceleration
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Point WTC7-3: The Claim in NIST’s Final Report that WTC 7 Came Down in Free Fall Without Explosives
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Point WTC7-4: Did the Official Simulation of the Fall of WTC7 Match the Observed Collapse?
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Point WTC7-5: World Trade Center Building 7: NIST’s Analysis of the Collapse Initiation Is Not Valid
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Point WTC7-6: The Fraudulent NIST Claim That There Was No Steel Recovered from Building WTC7 for Analysis
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Point WTC7-7: Foreknowledge of the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7
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Wave Frequencies: The frequencies of waves caused by plane impacts, reported Rousseau, are typically much greater – one to two orders of magnitude higher – than the frequencies of the waves that were, according to LDEO, caused by the plane impacts into WTC 1 and 2. That is, the frequencies of waves typically caused by plane impacts range from (roughly) 10 to 100 Hertz (Hz), whereas the waves that were said by LDEO to be caused by the plane strikes are on the order of only 1Hz. The idea that the seismic waves in question were caused by plane impacts was, therefore, highly unlikely. Furthermore, the recording equipment at Palisades had a range of only 0.6-5Hz, so it was incapable of recording waves generated by typical plane impacts. [15]
Ref.[8] André Rousseau, “Were Explosives the Source of the Seismic Signals Emitted from New York on September 11, 2001?” Journal of 9/11 Studies, vol. 34, November 2012. This peer-reviewed published article has not been challenged in the scientific literature.
Conclusion
The discrepancies described above indicate that the LDEO conclusions about the nature of the events that generated the signals recorded at Palisades cannot be correct. Most strikingly, the ground radar data, which is very precise, showed WTC 1 to have been struck 15 seconds later than the Palisades-recorded seismic activity, which LDEO scientists attributed to an airplane impact. The radar also shows WTC 2 to have been struck later than the seismic activity attributed to it. The seismic activity, therefore, must have been produced by something other than the crashes of the airliners into the two buildings.
Rousseau, like Furlong and Ross, provided reasons to conclude that the signals that the official story attributed to airplane impacts had actually been caused by something else – which, as evidence documented in Point TT-8 suggests, was shocks, explosive in nature, that had occurred at the bases of the buildings. Rousseau further demonstrated that the wave details themselves were characteristic of such explosions, not of plane impacts or building collapses.
How on earth can we then not see any sign of exterior panel INWARDS buckling-movement during those long 6 seconds? As on the Twin Towers perimeters was recorded.
originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: LaBTop
How on earth can we then not see any sign of exterior panel INWARDS buckling-movement during those long 6 seconds? As on the Twin Towers perimeters was recorded.
Footage that kills the conspiracy theories: Unseen 9/11 footage shows WTC Building 7 consumed by fire
Buckling: The windows in the upper right corner show how the building's exterior frame could no longer withstand the high temperatures
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If buildings could collapse uniformly into their own footprint without the use of anything other than setting fire to it... then why pray tell are there expert demolition companies?
Surely all we need to do is to burn down all the buildings we no longer need, simply set a fire and wait for them to neatly collapse perfectly into it's own footprint. nice a neat...
originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: Korg Trinity
If buildings could collapse uniformly into their own footprint without the use of anything other than setting fire to it... then why pray tell are there expert demolition companies?
Surely all we need to do is to burn down all the buildings we no longer need, simply set a fire and wait for them to neatly collapse perfectly into it's own footprint. nice a neat...
The Verinage demolition method does not use explosives.
Cables can be used as well. Look how they pulled down WTC 6 with cables.
Even an earthquake dropped a 21-story steel frame building.
Photo: 21-Story Steel Frame Building Collapse in Earthquake.
Total collapse of 21-story steel frame office building.
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Except WT7 did not collapse according to you as a result demolition it was simply natural fires..... not cables....
originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: Korg Trinity
Except WT7 did not collapse according to you as a result demolition it was simply natural fires..... not cables....
When a steel frame building doesn't fully collapse, you pull whats left with cables.
Not to mention one piece of proof that can stand cross examination.
originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: Korg Trinity
Take another look.
WTC 7 Rubble
Please point out the time lines where explosives are heard as WTC 7 collapsed.
originally posted by: pfishy
a reply to: Korg Trinity
But, can you go ahead and point out the alleged demolition explosions in that video?
I'm only saying alleged because I absolutely refuse to take sides on the 9/11 conspiracy theories. I'm not using the term to say you are incorrect, or that skyeagle409 is correct.
I just like to see the most thorough presentation of each person's evidence.
If anyone watching that video doesn't think Controlled Demolition... they have a serious mental deficiency.....
Please show me a video or article or anything anywhere of another building doing that as a result of fire!!
Three (3) Steel Frame Buildings Collapse Due to Fire in Thailand
The building was reinforced with un-insulated steel girders which quickly weakened and collapsed. This part of the building was dedicated to the storage of finished products and the fire spread quickly. Other parts of the factory were full of raw materials which also burnt very fast... Fire-fighters arrived at the factory at about 4:40pm, to find Building One about to collapse.
The Kader buildings,...collapsed relatively early in the fire because their structural steel supports lacked the fireproofing that would have allowed them to maintain their strength when exposed to high temperatures.
A post-fire review of the debris at the Kader site showed no indication that any of the steel members had been fireproofed.
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Fire from Aircraft Accident Results in Collapse of Steel Frame Hangar
A twin-engine Cessna Citation 525A plane that took off from Hailey, Idaho, went off the right side of the runway on landing, struck a hangar and burst into flames at 6:20 p.m., Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Ian Gregor said.
Upon collision, the hangar walls wrapped around the plane's fuselage and steel trusses collapsed on top of the aircraft, making it impossible to gain access to the cabin, National Transportation Safety Board investigator Van Kenny said during a news conference today.
The hangar collapsed and was too unstable for firefighters to enter, said Captain John Nevandro of the Santa Monica Fire
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originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: Korg Trinity
Once again, please point out the time lines where explosions are heard and understand that demolition explosions make a lot of noise.
Now, you have been made aware that 3 steel frame buildings, other than the WTC buildings, have collapsed due to fire alone, and those buildings in Thailand did not even suffer impact damage.