Presidents Whom Owned Slaves: 4 Are on Currency

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I understand what is going on, and that scares me. We are knee-jerking, we are not thinking logically and we are supporting an idea that will ultimately destroy us all. That is that anything that offends anyone needs to be terminated and that history isn't important. What do they say...those who don't learn history are bound to repeat it? We are going in the right general direction, but we are going to extremes and following the dream of a utopia that is based upon untruths, lies and that is opposed to logic.

And it is beginning, people are going to extremes to to make this world a PC socialist utopia for their suposed "Liberal Agenda" Texas Liberals want George Washington Statue Removed

a reply to: iDope

Honey, I hate to be the grammar police but you've misused 'whom' more than once. It's 'Presidents who owned slaves' because 'who' is in subjective case, and 'owned one slave, who escaped' and '$50 to whoever found him' — the last one is tricky because usually 'whom' after a preposition such as 'to' is objective case, but you have to look at it in the clause, and since it is the subject of the clause, it should be 'whoever.'

If you have trouble sorting them out, you're best to stick with 'who' all the time, because it is more correct these days to use 'who' as an object than it ever will be to use 'whom' as a subject. Just trying to help.

a reply to: lindalinda

I realize that and I never talk or write like that, sorry for recieving the grammar speeding ticket. I was reading several books from 1600's-1700's in the last few weeks that had poor English translation and they repeatedly said "whom" in them. It must have stuck within my subconscious as to refer to an object when describing a person, as a person is an object-ive, as in whom used; as who have or who did=whom= He whom owned a person= He did own a person.

originally posted by: calstorm
a reply to: smitastrophe

Sure, I guess, for a railroad attorney who advocated for property seizures of hard working land owners to expand the railroads.

Noone owns land besides the banks and governments. No matter how hard you work to pay off the land you own, your state or government can come in and take it and you can do nothing. You buy a house through a bank because few people can pay cash for it, and you pay nearly twice as much what you agreed to pay through interest ofver 20 or so years, and you miss a few payments the bank comes in and can take it over and sell it. When did you or your family really own land? When it was created? When money was created? When it was stolen from another culture? Please elaborate.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
So lets say for a moment that smoking pot is legal. Doesn't matter what you substitute there...just using pot as a hypothetical. Some people smoke it...some don't. Then, a few years from now pot is made illegal. So...do you then, when pot is illegal go back and condemn people who smoked it when it was legal? Of course not. How many President's wives couldn't vote in the past? Are they bad people too?

What do they say about hindsight? This is all getting ridiculous. If someone follows the rules of law, and then the law changes, you can't go back and call them guilty of something that wasn't illegal.

And I'll take that one step further. If someone does something illegal today and it gets legalized a few years from now...I say they are still guilty not because of the specific act, but of breaking the law at the time.

I'm just going to make a very broad reply to this satement that I agree you made a point to. I am not saying that anyone who condoned slavery should be removed or forgotten from history, I am just saying that this is what is happening right now if you pay attention. Not that they are being banned or forcefully removed, that history is going to be rewritten. Our future Idols on currency or forefathers will not be Washington, Jefferson, etc. It will be people like T.Edison, Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, Bush(s), Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, etc. Give it 10 years if currency is still around. There is no reason for Pre-Prohibition of Slavery Presidents to be on currency when they were before the Federal Reserve who creates all money and is not apart of the Government.

Talking about hindsight, take your argument about pot being legalized, illegalized, then legalized. Change it to alcohol. It's illegal to operate anything that moves while under consumption of alcohol, period. You can get a DUI riding a horse if you are over the limit. That is true and has happened. It is legal to drink as much as you want whenever you want as long as you are of age. But it restricts your rights by doing so. You are not allowed to do certain things as long as you are under the influence, and if you choose to do them, you get fined or go to jail and have a permanent record.

White collar criminals who steal millions get paid millions to reformulate their own business practices in order to find new ways to steal from innocent people. By legal drinking alcohol, that is sold in nearly every store, and getting on a bike, car, horse, moped, or snowmobile, can cost thousands and get you put in jail. So you get fined for possibly causing harm, even if you didn't, it's a protection filter over our eyes that is glaucoma to others. Whereas a white collar criminal can make millions or billions off of people hard earned money and not serve a day in jail eventhough it hurt thousands of people-in their wallets. Therefore, the law knows that money means nothing and yet it is also drastically important, or else there would never be fines. Welcome to slavery 101.

a reply to: iDope

Just turn off the media,
and live comfortably.

You are the one who is responsible
for your own happiness.

Happy Fourth of July to
You and Yours.

originally posted by: iDope

originally posted by: Blowback

a reply to: iDope
Presidents Whom Owned Slaves: 4 Are on Currency

does this mean the Federal Reserve Bank will have to be taken down ?

Let me ask you this. If this became a discussion, slave owners on our currency in the MSM, especially now, would it not envoke the question that a change should be made? Especially if the Confederate Flag gets banned it would have to be a talking point. Especially the Presidential memorials glorifying men whom owned slaves. It would all have to come down, it is the same symbol in the end, is it not?

Welcome to the age of the Nike Nickel, Microsoft Windows quarter (4 windows make a dollar), Viacom 20 dollar bill that streams TV on face of bill.

Well before you get to bent out of shape just remember that slave holders where the same that guaranteed our rights as law and even gave impetus to what finally freed the slaves. So now we can set here and even run our holes about the government. A bunch of slave owner did that.

a reply to: diggindirt

I wish I could give more than 1 star for a post...very well said.

a reply to: diggindirt

I have read every word
that you took the time to write.
I had to digest it for a while
in order to respond.

My response is thus forth,
To be clear, the European
Culture, created the Slave Trade.
(At least the recent version, as slavery has existed as long as human history can record)
Many Colonists wanted nothing
to do with the "Old Ways" of trade,
monarchy,religion,taxation,slavery,
and other forms of control and persecution.

In effect, the dream was to create
a New World Order.
In some formations,
these dreams have been materialized.
In other forms, such as finance,
there are existing anchors to past systems.

It must be made clear that Slavery is born of
the old world system.
In the year of Our Lord 2015,
The United States of America is still
the scapegoat for the sins of others.

That is to say that many of the colonists
of this New Born Nation were in many ways
slaves themselves in one form or another.
Whether physically,financially,mentally, or spiritually.

Personally, my relatives who immigrated to
The United States of America were persecuted themselves.
No one in my lineage has ever owned a slave.
Nor have I.

In fact,,,

I shall return.

S&F Wildmanimal