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originally posted by: Teeky
Maybe she's a 007/agent. There are rumors of agents that infiltrate every group, like the militias for instance. She probably was an agent and then outted for a particular agenda. The NAacp has probably been infiltrated and watered down not to long after it's inception. And I find it ironic that this news comes out during Tupac Shakur's birthday, which is today by the way. Anything to take an ascended master's shine.
originally posted by: klassified
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: klassified
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
I think a LOT more is going to come out about this lady and her delusions. I have a feeling a LOT of her past is a complete fabrication from the things I have read about her.
What I'm curious to see is how her parents and family eventually play into all of this.
I think she is a pathological liar personally. Her entire family has come out stating she is a huge fake. Even her brother said she asked him not to blow her cover as a "black woman" and refuted her claims of growing up like a slave and living in a teepee and hunting food with bows and arrows....SERIOUSLY! She claims these things are true.
I would not be surprised if this became a Lifetime movie or something in the near future......
The question then, becomes why? Why did she feel the need to identify as anything other than what she was?
Racial Identity Disorder is an abnormal psychological condition where the subject wishes they were another race.
This disorder is marked by having 2 or more of the following symptoms:
#Refusal to be addressed by any other race.
#Engagement in activities stereotypical of the other race.
#Extreme disgust of there own race (adversion to skin color, body type, or social status).
#Adoption of typically dress, speech, and behavior of racial group in question.
#Changing name to further represent other race.
#Relocation to area prevalent with said race.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Maybe she has Ethnic Identity Disorder
Racial Identity Disorder is an abnormal psychological condition where the subject wishes they were another race.
This disorder is marked by having 2 or more of the following symptoms:
#Refusal to be addressed by any other race.
#Engagement in activities stereotypical of the other race.
#Extreme disgust of there own race (adversion to skin color, body type, or social status).
#Adoption of typically dress, speech, and behavior of racial group in question.
#Changing name to further represent other race.
#Relocation to area prevalent with said race.
She may have this disorder or she may be lying... But I don't think there's a requirement for the NAACP position to be a black person...
originally posted by: Teeky
a reply to: Vasa Croe
The story broke right before his birthday. And is still being paraded around today (his birthday). An ascended master need not be religious; but must be spiritual, live life to it's fullest, and live life without fear, and to fight the powers that be.
Source
She traced misconceptions about her background to local news media reports that first identified her as “transracial,” then as biracial and then as black. “I never corrected that,” she said — even as she insisted that there was nothing to correct.
In fact, her role has not been so passive — she has identified herself as black or partly black on many occasions, including on an application for appointment to a Spokane city commission, where she checked boxes for white, black and Native American.
In the “Today” interview, Ms. Dolezal defended publicly identifying a black friend, who is not a relative, as her father. “We connected on a very intimate level as family,” she said. “Albert Wilkerson is my dad.”
Several years ago, she became the guardian of one of her adopted, black younger siblings, Izaiah, now 21. He sees her as his “real mom,” she said, “and for that to be something that is plausible, I certainly can’t be seen as white and be Izaiah’s mom.”
She also has a biological son, who is 13, with her former husband, who is black.
Despite all this, you can’t deny that Dolezal has proven herself a fierce and unrelenting champion for African-Americans politically and culturally. Perhaps some of this sensitivity comes from her adoptive black siblings. Whatever the reason, she has been fighting the fight for several years and seemingly doing a first-rate job. Not only has she led her local chapter of the NAACP, she teaches classes related to African-American culture at Eastern Washington University and is chairwoman of a police oversight committee monitoring fairness in police activities. Bottom line: The black community is better off because of her efforts.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: Teeky
a reply to: Vasa Croe
The story broke right before his birthday. And is still being paraded around today (his birthday). An ascended master need not be religious; but must be spiritual, live life to it's fullest, and live life without fear, and to fight the powers that be.
I don't think there are enough people in the world that care about Tupac for this to have mattered. Was there some huge celebration of him that I was missed because of this story?
He was lauded as a visionary in his music ability and lyrics....that is hardly something that will last the test of time. Plenty of great musical artists have come and gone. This is not some conspiracy to discredit Tupac after 20 years of being dead.
As far as being spiritually ascended.....I had no idea spiritual ascension was had by fighting and thugging....sure his music was good, but he was no spiritually righteous master...
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: jadedANDcynical
There's always been so much controversy concerning people of color passing for white... I doubt most people would feel comfortable bringing any of that up, or even criticizing it in the same way as they freely criticize this
Her story/situation is so interesting - isn't it?
She clearly has some issues with her white parents. She was raised with her adopted black brothers. She married a black man...
Source
She traced misconceptions about her background to local news media reports that first identified her as “transracial,” then as biracial and then as black. “I never corrected that,” she said — even as she insisted that there was nothing to correct.
In fact, her role has not been so passive — she has identified herself as black or partly black on many occasions, including on an application for appointment to a Spokane city commission, where she checked boxes for white, black and Native American.
In the “Today” interview, Ms. Dolezal defended publicly identifying a black friend, who is not a relative, as her father. “We connected on a very intimate level as family,” she said. “Albert Wilkerson is my dad.”
Several years ago, she became the guardian of one of her adopted, black younger siblings, Izaiah, now 21. He sees her as his “real mom,” she said, “and for that to be something that is plausible, I certainly can’t be seen as white and be Izaiah’s mom.”
She also has a biological son, who is 13, with her former husband, who is black.
I read this yesterday:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: Let Rachel Dolezal Be as Black as She Wants to Be
Despite all this, you can’t deny that Dolezal has proven herself a fierce and unrelenting champion for African-Americans politically and culturally. Perhaps some of this sensitivity comes from her adoptive black siblings. Whatever the reason, she has been fighting the fight for several years and seemingly doing a first-rate job. Not only has she led her local chapter of the NAACP, she teaches classes related to African-American culture at Eastern Washington University and is chairwoman of a police oversight committee monitoring fairness in police activities. Bottom line: The black community is better off because of her efforts.
I hope she gets her job back - frankly. Sounds like she earned that position - unless people really believe that our ethnicity is as important as who we are and what we do
originally posted by: Teeky
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: Teeky
a reply to: Vasa Croe
The story broke right before his birthday. And is still being paraded around today (his birthday). An ascended master need not be religious; but must be spiritual, live life to it's fullest, and live life without fear, and to fight the powers that be.
I don't think there are enough people in the world that care about Tupac for this to have mattered. Was there some huge celebration of him that I was missed because of this story?
He was lauded as a visionary in his music ability and lyrics....that is hardly something that will last the test of time. Plenty of great musical artists have come and gone. This is not some conspiracy to discredit Tupac after 20 years of being dead.
As far as being spiritually ascended.....I had no idea spiritual ascension was had by fighting and thugging....sure his music was good, but he was no spiritually righteous master...
Jim Morrison, JFk, Tupac, Bob Marley just to name a few; were people who weren't afraid to inform the masses of the deception that is our reality. Dozeal is just a puppet and neither of the aforementioned were puppets or least broke free of their puppet master during their lives. Jim Morrison was a druken master highly spiritual. So therefore Tupac is being over shadowed by this transracial agent, in order for the masses not to come together and celebrate and have fun on the day an asecended master was born.
Pathological liar in my book. One that I would not trust to run an organization in any manner.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: Teeky
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: Teeky
a reply to: Vasa Croe
The story broke right before his birthday. And is still being paraded around today (his birthday). An ascended master need not be religious; but must be spiritual, live life to it's fullest, and live life without fear, and to fight the powers that be.
I don't think there are enough people in the world that care about Tupac for this to have mattered. Was there some huge celebration of him that I was missed because of this story?
He was lauded as a visionary in his music ability and lyrics....that is hardly something that will last the test of time. Plenty of great musical artists have come and gone. This is not some conspiracy to discredit Tupac after 20 years of being dead.
As far as being spiritually ascended.....I had no idea spiritual ascension was had by fighting and thugging....sure his music was good, but he was no spiritually righteous master...
Jim Morrison, JFk, Tupac, Bob Marley just to name a few; were people who weren't afraid to inform the masses of the deception that is our reality. Dozeal is just a puppet and neither of the aforementioned were puppets or least broke free of their puppet master during their lives. Jim Morrison was a druken master highly spiritual. So therefore Tupac is being over shadowed by this transracial agent, in order for the masses not to come together and celebrate and have fun on the day an asecended master was born.
I don't think any masses were going to come together and celebrate Tupac today regardless of the media story. Has there been some nationwide party we all missed in the past? Hell...I couldn't tell you the birthdays of any of the guys you named....much less have I partied on any of their birthdays because it was their birthday.
originally posted by: Teeky
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: Teeky
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: Teeky
a reply to: Vasa Croe
The story broke right before his birthday. And is still being paraded around today (his birthday). An ascended master need not be religious; but must be spiritual, live life to it's fullest, and live life without fear, and to fight the powers that be.
I don't think there are enough people in the world that care about Tupac for this to have mattered. Was there some huge celebration of him that I was missed because of this story?
He was lauded as a visionary in his music ability and lyrics....that is hardly something that will last the test of time. Plenty of great musical artists have come and gone. This is not some conspiracy to discredit Tupac after 20 years of being dead.
As far as being spiritually ascended.....I had no idea spiritual ascension was had by fighting and thugging....sure his music was good, but he was no spiritually righteous master...
Jim Morrison, JFk, Tupac, Bob Marley just to name a few; were people who weren't afraid to inform the masses of the deception that is our reality. Dozeal is just a puppet and neither of the aforementioned were puppets or least broke free of their puppet master during their lives. Jim Morrison was a druken master highly spiritual. So therefore Tupac is being over shadowed by this transracial agent, in order for the masses not to come together and celebrate and have fun on the day an asecended master was born.
I don't think any masses were going to come together and celebrate Tupac today regardless of the media story. Has there been some nationwide party we all missed in the past? Hell...I couldn't tell you the birthdays of any of the guys you named....much less have I partied on any of their birthdays because it was their birthday.
I know the masses aren't going to come together and rep for a freedom fighter, we are too divided to do so. And plus the media and tptb didn't say we could celebrate on Tupac's Birthday so therefore it won't happen. You can't have young hip hop fans 15-50 in the U.S. and around the world celebrating a person who was a straight up rider. But here we are talking about a liar, agent, agenda driven distraction.
originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Pathological liar in my book. One that I would not trust to run an organization in any manner.
If an African American can pass for white and just lets people believe they are white - perhaps because it will help them in a situation here or there to be considered white - is that the same thing? Or is that different?
There are Jews that changed their names when they arrived in America, or tried to make a name for themselves in show business. My mom had a Mexican friend that un-latinized her name a little bit...
I get why this is news, but I'm not sure I understand the anger
According to everyone who knew her - she was very good at what she did - liar or no
:-)
So many absolutely fascinating philosophical questions come out of this story
A lot of people are living a lie - I'd go so far as to say most of us are in one way or another