While In A Womb A Baby Is Only An Appendage.

a reply to: ketsuko

I dropped out of college and embarked on a decade long blur of parties. But look how successful I have ended up being....so everyone should do what I did.

Yea....personal testimony is mostly about inspiring people who are facing a similar situation. Statistically speaking....it is a massively stacked deck.

You are right, the system is ineffiicient. In multiple ways in other agencies related to adoption (CPS/APS, for example). Mental health support is fairly weak, too. And there just arent enough willing (decent) parents to go around.

Like i said...i'd still choose adoption over abortion. For me personally. But at the same time I have to acknowledge that neither decision is statistically going to end well. Although there are individual cases.

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: beezzer

Beezzer you have a furry heart of gold, but i believe you are asking from the wrong person.

The OP knows the mother. Simple really, if she is considering an abortion, perhaps I can adopt the child instead.

No drama.

Easy-peasy.

I can contact a lawyer in the morning.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Foster system seems to work well in my country ( opinion made because i have never heard anything which says the difference ) maybe because system is well thought out, foster parents goes through selection ( not everyone can be one ) and their work is supported.
What are requirements in US for foster parenting or is it just business and "easy" money ?

I believe every child is titled to have their chances to live and thrive.. There must be some success stories in US too !

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: johnwick

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

I'll adopt the child.

That is one hell of a thing to say my friend!!!!!!!

Good on you beez, I always liked you but damnit man, I wanna give you a hug right now!!!!!!!

No really, come here you little furry bastard!!!!

Stop hoping around!!!

lolz

You can help change diapers.

I have three little wicks running around, I have changed thousands of diapers, what's a few dozens more.

a reply to: johnwick

I've got 2, but they are older now. the 12 year old could always help!

a reply to: dollukka

There are a lot of really loving and caring foster families. Especially in the more rural areas.

But there are also group homes and such.

And for every child raised by that nice family...how many get stuck in a group home?

To make things a little harder, Americans tend to adopt non American children. This is the number of "imported" children by year:



And the number of total adoptions by year:



Keep in mind: there are about 450,000 children in foster care in the US. And each year only about 10-15k are adopted (with more to fill their slot, and then some). And of those, almost all of them are coming from outside the US.

I blame Brangelina.

a reply to: beezzer

The circumstances surrounding my daughter getting pregnant wasn't good.. and she found out later she was pregnant.

When my daughter got pregnant her diabetes was terribly unstable - it was that way prior to the pregnancy.. every day since we found out she had diabetes, she was just a severe type one case. The doctor told us she was risking her life to continue the pregnancy.. he suggested abortion because her medical condition was such they did not believe either her or the baby would live.

I also did speak to her on the topic, since the doctors seemed certain this would kill her.. so I talked to her about it, even though I am against abortion I was also against her dying..

She looked at me and said she was utterly shocked, and that this was my grandchild, and how dare I even consider it. lol.. she was that way.. so she continued the pregnancy... in and out of the hospital in one life threatening situation after the other..

but both her and the baby lived. Later, that baby came to live with me while her mom readjusted emotionally, and financially in life.. I had the baby for just over two years.. then we found out she was pregnant again.. this time on purpose and I was so mad.. lol..

And we did it again, one life threatening situation after the other, the last 4 months of her pregnancy that time they didn't even let her out of the hospital.. that was how bad she was...

but they both lived...

my daughter then died of cancer.. and those two babies are all I have left of her.. but she gave them as a gift to all of us... and I wouldn't trade them for the world.

God knows how anyone can write children off... when some people wont have an abortion, no matter how much they are risking to do so...

and you just never know what is going to happen down the road... that is going to make you more grateful than you ever imagined just to have those children.

a reply to: OpinionatedB

Every time you speak about your daughter it makes me well up.

I spoke to the missus, and she is on board with this.

Kids, they are a gift and a blessing.

a reply to: beezzer

They are...

Oh God they are...

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: johnwick

I've got 2, but they are older now. the 12 year old could always help!

Mine are 15 14 and my little baby girl is 11.

They grow so fast, I miss them being little and cute.

Now they are big and mouthy.

a reply to: johnwick

They do tend to get that way, don't they.



Taking the 12 year old to 4H in a minute.

Big show for the bunny next week!

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

So it has become a fashion statement.. it is kinda sad

a reply to: OpinionatedB
Im sorry to hear about your daughter, for type 1 pregnancies are always risky and usually delivered by c section before full time. In the minute woman knows she is pregnant protection instinct kicks in and woman is ready to go through it.. She was brave !
I am mother of type 1 too and i have to say i am somewhat relieved that mine is a boy.

Hugs !

a reply to: beezzer

Okay.. so now that I have dried my eyes... some posts are just damn hard to write you know..

but I will say.. I do hope these people give their child to you... it sounds like that would be best for the child to have such a loving home as I know you would provide..

Hopefully they will more than just heavily consider it...and if not you, then a home just as good and just as loving.

a reply to: dollukka

Thanks sweetie.. and yeah, boys are easier in that department!

originally posted by: Unity_99

originally posted by: Metallicus
I find the idea of abortion to be morally reprehensible, but I also don't believe in inflicting my beliefs on others. I support her right to make a 'choice' to kill her baby, but I don't have to like her decision.

One final note...my support for abortion ends after the 1st trimester. Killing a baby at 5 months or beyond is simply sick.

Agree with this. First trimester cut off.

I would feel Weeks 6 - 7 or so thus the morning after pill may be a solution when used.
When there is not a brain yet there is not a person imo.

Your baby's brain forms into five different areas. Some cranial nerves are visible.
www.nlm.nih.gov...

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: johnwick

They do tend to get that way, don't they.

Taking the 12 year old to 4H in a minute.

Big show for the bunny next week!

Good luck!!!

a reply to: OpinionatedB


Ummm...WOW...just wow...................just wow...

I mean...I...................you just took all the words away...




YouSir

Please keep in mind that this:


is not an appendage.

This is a 4D ultrasound at 16 weeks.

And this:

is not an appendage

This is a 4 D ultrasound at 11 weeks

I'm not anti-abortion in the first trimester, even up to 20 weeks when a child can survive on it's own without the mother. I draw the line when a child can survive outside the womb. But I don't think one can say that a fetus is an appendage.

There are way too many 4D ultrasounds that show fetus' laughing, smiling, sucking their thumbs, examining their toes to say that a fetus is soulless.

Beezer, you are wonderful and so is Mrs. Beezer.

a reply to: grandmakdw

All we did was offer.

But it was sincere.

a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

I hope that useless moron turns out to be the best damn father any child could ever hope for.