Students in PA High School dress in flannel; pin Bible verses to students lockers for Anti-Gay Day

a reply to: jjkenobi

Lovely sentiment...

Not.

No matter how far we've come as a country in regards to our behaviour towards others, events like this only prove how far we have yet to go...

How utter pitiful. Fear of those different from you must be a horrible way to live... I pity them. Instead of celebrating our differences, we fear them.

a reply to: snowspirit

These idiot kids are not "thinking for themselves", they've just jumped on the bandwagon of divide divide divide

...and there you have it. These kids couldn't be farther from "thinking for themselves" if they tried.

Passive aggressive bullying is all this is. Pathetic!

These kids have the right to do this as long as they aren't harassing anyone. If the rumor of the "lynch list" is confirmed then it has crossed the line. Unfortunately for the LGBT kids in this school, until that happens, these kids aren't in the wrong legally. Freedom of Speech.

Bring in the Indigo Children. They'll know what to do!

originally posted by: jjkenobi
I say hooray for them! Kids who can think for themselves and are sick of getting the gay agenda thrust in their faces and rammed down their throats. Kids who aren't mindless robots just accepting what society tries to spoon feed them.

Do you know, i have seen the green agenda, i have seen the anti Muslim agenda in the media (although large sections of certain countries don't help that one) and various other agendas. I have to say though, i have never seen the "gay" agenda. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to what this is? The only thing i have seen that could be deemed slightly "gay" agenda-ish is the promotion of tolerance, regardless of sexual orientation. If this is the gay agenda of which you speak then i for one am all for it. Unless you think discrimination and intolerance are a good thing?

I have kids myself. Some day i hope to be a grandparent but if my kids choose a different sexual orientation, then that is their decision. I won't be loving them any less. How anyone can feel otherwise is simply beyond me. Does people having a different orientation to yourself threaten you somehow? Or is it just the idea you don't like? If it's the idea, i can't say it appeals to me but then neither does vegetarianism. Should i be allowed to discriminate against veggiesbecause their lifestyle offends me? (it doesn't massively, only when you go to a veggies house and don't get offered meat - they go nuts when they come to yours and their is no veggie option so whats the difference?).

As to this story, each have the right to protest whatever they like, providing they don't get physical and abusive.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
These kids have the right to do this as long as they aren't harassing anyone.

They ARE harassing someone...

Unfortunately for the LGBT kids in this school, until that happens, these kids aren't in the wrong legally. Freedom of Speech.

Kids in school are subject to rules of the school administration. An anti-bullying rule would apply here, I think. Free speech can be restricted to a certain extent by the administration, if the speech is found to interrupt or negatively affect the reason they're all there - the education of the kids.

My question - What would happen if the LGBT and allies had an "anti-bigot day" and wore rainbow shirts and posted OTHER bible verses (like "judge not" and Jesus' words about love) to the lockers of the bigots?

a reply to: Anyafaj

Well 'rude and cruel' is the definition of many kids that age in high school. I do not like it nor agree with it but it's there.

However, why do we selectively determine what cause to stand behind when denouncing their behavior? Only when that rudeness and cruelty targets our cause de jour does it make the news? IMHO, this selectivity is in lock step with and no better than these kids behavior.

PITA POV: This is not a 'rights' issue nor a 'school' issue, but a parental issue. Kids that age are no different than they have always been. The difference today? The discussion is framed in regards as to how the state is supposed to parse what can and cannot be said or done. Just look at the responses to your OP. Rarely are the adult role models (the parents) held accountable. If I found out my kid was doing this, I would be pissed and deal with it. Guaranteed my kid would rather it remain some esoteric, bottomless back-and-forth on rights and bigotry.

a reply to: jjkenobi

How are they thinking for themselves? They're merely repeating the beliefs of their parents based a book that has dictated the course of Western civilization for the past 2000 years. If anything they're the brainwashed ones.

I may not agree with what they say but I'll defend till my death their right to say it. I won't defend bullying however.
This is a great civics lesson for the whole school.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
These kids have the right to do this as long as they aren't harassing anyone. If the rumor of the "lynch list" is confirmed then it has crossed the line. Unfortunately for the LGBT kids in this school, until that happens, these kids aren't in the wrong legally. Freedom of Speech.

Pity the slow evisceration that is thrust upon so many innocent souls in the name of "Freedom of Speech". When taken to such extremes, why would anyone even question the state of the world today...the children are the future indeed.

It seems that people forget that they WILL eventually be ruled by very same hatred & bigotry that is sown into the children today. As you sow so shall you reap...

I can't help but to think that these divisions are the very reason that the vulnerable of society are forgotten about today - veterans, the elderly, the homeless et al...the divisions via labels have been deeply imbedded into people's psyche for so many generations, that they have completely forgotten their humanity.

I do wonder if the Christians whom excuse this behaviour toward others, fully realize that their actions may be the very reason there are so many atheists in the world today. It's hard to believe in a purportedly "loving" system, so full of such blatant outwardly directed hate.

humanity
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: the quality or state of being human

: the quality or state of being kind to other people or to animals

: all people


Full Definition of HUMANITY

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: the quality or state of being humane
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a : the quality or state of being human
b plural : human attributes or qualities
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plural : the branches of learning (as philosophy, arts, or languages) that investigate human constructs and concerns as opposed to natural processes (as in physics or chemistry) and social relations (as in anthropology or economics)
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: the human race : the totality of human beings

a reply to: Xcalibur254

You do know that there are people who object to homosexuals who are not religious right? It's not always about bible thumpers some folks just think it's unnatural.

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

They're posting Bible verses on lockers. Tell me that in this case it has nothing to do with religion.

Good thing we now have laws against the church dusting off the torture devices, so they can cleanse the gays of their demons, and save their souls. Praise the lord!

originally posted by: ABNARTY
Rarely are the adult role models (the parents) held accountable.

It's pretty safe to assume that the adult "role models" and parents are where the bigoted ideas came from!

a reply to: MoonBlossom

I can't help but to think that these divisions are the very reason that the vulnerable of society are forgotten about today - veterans, the elderly, the homeless

These vulnerable people are forgotten because they're not fashionable. They're not trendy at this particular time.
I'd love to see the social-engineering crusaders put 1/10th the effort into helping the elderly as they put into their other causes du jour.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

I don't even know, but what are you going to do to punish these kids? Ban flannel?

a reply to: Anyafaj

who shared their bigoted stance to show support by wearing a flannel shirt to school

So Christian fundies wear Flannel shirts..I thought only Bogans (Aust. = Redneck US) wore flannel shirts. I guess they'll be easy to spot by satan.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

It's more than likely, that this was all done by adults, influencing kids.

I was wondering the same thing about the prep school kids that just left a pep rally and decided to beat the heck out of that black gentleman that escorted the elderly White lady to her car.

I was wondering, where all their anger originated from.

www.cbsnews.com...

As someone already suggested, the gay kids should respond with scripture.

Stay cool, calm, and hit 'em with Matthew 7:

Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite.