Cabbie ordered to pay $10,000 for telling lesbians to stop kissing

a reply to: Annee

What's going on is a broken justice system, it's that simple.

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Annee

What's going on is a broken justice system, it's that simple.

Solution?

a reply to: Annee

Extremely complicated and frustrating attempts to completely restructure our system to limit fines and fees based upon percentages defined by economic status.

This way both the rich and poor will be punished equivalent to each other, and the rich will no longer laugh at our laws while the poor are completely devastated and turned into slaves to the state for minor infractions.

Will the commission back up the judge?

The city's Commission on Human Rights, which brought the complaint against Dahbi on behalf of Spitzer and Thornton, still must approve Spooner's decision.

a reply to: Annee

I hope someone updates us with that info when it's determined, I'd love to know.

a reply to: Puppylove

As an example of percentages, let's say I make 10,000 dollars a year and a reckless driving fine was 200 hundred dollars.

For the equivalent to exist for someone that makes 100,000 dollars a year the fine would be 2,000 dollars.

1,000,000 dollars a year, it would be 10,000 dollars.

15,000 dollars a year would be 300 dollars. It's that simple a system. Estimate their yearly income assuming the incident doesn't cost them their jobs, and decide from there.

a reply to: Annee

Hi Annee...I see where you are coming from but why should the courts decide what your morals should be...My best friend is black and his wife is white...Here in the the UK there is no issue.
My ex wife is a priest and she is not forced to marry a gay couple because that goes against her beliefs. It will be a sorry day when the government try to dictate to you what you should believe in....
You can turn the TV on over here and see two men kissing...would that have happened twenty years ago ?? No, because it was frowned upon...why is is ok now...It's because society has been conditioned to believe that it is normal.
I'm not a prude by any means but in all honesty, i would not like to walk in on my son having sex with another man...
I applaud the taxi driver for sticking to his moral stance and asking the lesbians to stop kissing in his cab...there is a time and place for that and it is not pushing it is a strangers face..
10,000 dollars...i would rather go to jail...

a reply to: Annee

Like I said. I think there's more to it.

I'm hoping so. Just taking the insulted couple at their word seems ridiculous to me in a case like this. I'm betting the truth is somewhere in the middle.

To be clear, I don't take issue with upholding the law and what not, I just don't like the judges reason, or the reason that was reported at any rate.

originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: Annee

Like I said. I think there's more to it.

I'm hoping so. Just taking the insulted couple at their word seems ridiculous to me in a case like this. I'm betting the truth is somewhere in the middle.

To be clear, I don't take issue with upholding the law and what not, I just don't like the judges reason, or the reason that was reported at any rate.

Oh, I fully admit it seems excessive.

I just want to know why.

I dont care if you are gay or not,I think pda is rude to do in front of others.think about people that dont have or cant find someone,to love.

I have booted 2 separate lesbian couples off my property who where otherwise free to come and go. Why? One rule... no PDF. Thats all.

One couple got a bit intoxicated and started making out in front of everyone. Boom see ya!

The other couple were making out in their car in front of my younger son and me. Boom see ya!

originally posted by: Rocker2013

originally posted by: Domo1
You people from other countries need to stop telling Americans how to think and feel.

But wait, you Americans love freedom of speech, right?

I'm not telling you how to think and feel, I'm pointing out that this constant whining about how seeing other people being affectionate might be "offensive" is absolutely pathetic.

It's funny, American people preach a lot about liberty and freedom, but so many of you are always so utterly desperate to inflict your notions onto other free people when their actions have absolutely no impact at all on your own lives.

I agree with your sentiment, BUT, please know that it is a small percentage of individuals who feel this way. In my opinion, it's generally caused by insecurities, combined with the marketing against anything that smacks of healthy emotions in the US.

It seems people are constantly praised and rewarded with attention for feeling stressed, anxious, depressed, angry, lonely, etc., but shame for feeling love, happiness, success, etc.

It's almost as if there's a war against being well. I don't think it's so much meant to create a dysfunctional society, I just think there's not much of a market for pills that stop you from feeling good.

originally posted by: Cuervo
a reply to: Domo1

For every LGBT person out there who cheered this on, there's a hundred more who would say "psssst... you're not helping!"

We need to pick our battles, folks. Picking on cabbies who don't like people getting frisky in their cabs isn't exactly making them look "oppressed" and the bigots will just use it as ammo when they want to say they're oppressed.

You have a ton of queer folks out there and a ton of religious ones. Most of them all just go along peacefully side-by-side but the ones that don't just like to scream "help, help, I'm being oppressed!" as loudly as possible to make both sides look ridiculous.

That may be true, but I like to watch lesbians kiss so there you go.

As such, I wouldn't have a problem with them making out in my cab. As long as there is no bodily fluids to clean up afterwards, they could get as frisky as they wanted.

a reply to: Domo1

Should be easy to see if this was indeed against LGBT just by looking how many heterosexual couples complained about him telling them the same while stopping taxi.

Come on, this is clear as daylight...

He got what he deserves...

If you are that distracted by somebody making out in the back of your car, why the h*** are you allowed in traffic? Your focus should be on the road, not what your passengers are doing.

originally posted by: SuperFrog
a reply to: Domo1

Should be easy to see if this was indeed against LGBT just by looking how many heterosexual couples complained about him telling them the same while stopping taxi.

Come on, this is clear as daylight...

He got what he deserves...

Really?

So based on his basic human right to feel uncomfortable in the situations he chooses (because THAT IS HOW IT WORKS), he gets a sever financial punishment for it...which in fact doesn't do a damn thing to rectify the issue at hand, for either party...just the corporation of New York City.

Do explain how he got what he deserved.

originally posted by: Sennex
If you are that distracted by somebody making out in the back of your car, why the h*** are you allowed in traffic? Your focus should be on the road, not what your passengers are doing.

Incorrect. A distraction is a distraction. And they come in all shapes and sizes. You do not have the right, authority or knowledge to know what is and what isn't a distraction for each and every driver on the road as it varies from person to person.

Good for him for noticing the distraction and trying to do something about it. Clearly his mind was set on safety first!

originally posted by: Annee
Sounds like some judge has decided to send a MESSAGE!

Just might make a difference.

Sometimes when I read your comments, I feel like you just phone them in, without any actual thought to the source material or any actual thought to anything outside of your own viewpoint.

Your right though, it just might make a difference, I doubt that would be in the direction you think though.

originally posted by: Helious

originally posted by: Annee
Sounds like some judge has decided to send a MESSAGE!

Just might make a difference.

Sometimes when I read your comments, I feel like you just phone them in, without any actual thought to the source material or any actual thought to anything outside of your own viewpoint.

Your right though, it just might make a difference, I doubt that would be in the direction you think though.

"Short Tack" -- say what you have to say in 10 words or less. I'm a very efficient thinker.

What direction then?

originally posted by: Sparkymedic
Really?

So based on his basic human right to feel uncomfortable in the situations he chooses (because THAT IS HOW IT WORKS), he gets a sever financial punishment for it...which in fact doesn't do a damn thing to rectify the issue at hand, for either party...just the corporation of New York City.

Do explain how he got what he deserved.

He was not fined because he felt uncomfortable, but because he reacted the way he did.

Just imagine if drivers of Islam religion started not just to feel uncomfortable about women not wearing proper cloth, but starts reacting like this driver, what would happen?? Do you support them objecting to what they think is 'uncomfortable'??