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originally posted by: CranialSponge
a reply to: TrueBrit
en.m.wikipedia.org...(pub)
Uh...
You didn't happen to be researching the 'eagle' in another tab window whilst you were digging for your story on the Crick/Watson ventures, were you ?
*snicker snicker*
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: dr1234
Well, first of all, I have to say that I appreciate your sentiments.
There are certainly topics out there, which spawn opinion despite the fact that the subject matter is objective not subjective in nature. However, where science is concerned, one must be quite careful to accept that scientific understanding is changing all of the time. Its basic principles do not, but some of its out workings do, and that is the wonderful thing about good science. It challenges not only the conceptions of the scientist working on the theory or the practical applications of a science, but the field in general.
Hawking did it, Higgs arguably, and of course those marvellous individuals who discovered DNA, and then went for a pint!
originally posted by: dr1234
I am so sick and tired of "respecting everyones opinion.
originally posted by: caladonea
originally posted by: dr1234
I am so sick and tired of "respecting everyones opinion.
I think everyone has the (right to have an opinion)...but many times I don't agree with their opinions... nor do I respect them; but I always know they have the right to have that opinion.
When I tell someone I think they are wrong and I don't agree with them; I don't yell it; I don't scream it; I just calmly tell them; and then we agree to disagree.
originally posted by: dr1234
originally posted by: caladonea
originally posted by: dr1234
I am so sick and tired of "respecting everyones opinion.
I think everyone has the (right to have an opinion)...but many times I don't agree with their opinions... nor do I respect them; but I always know they have the right to have that opinion.
When I tell someone I think they are wrong and I don't agree with them; I don't yell it; I don't scream it; I just calmly tell them; and then we agree to disagree.
Good for you, I said nothing about yelling or screaming though.
originally posted by: dr1234
I am so sick and tired of "respecting everyones opinion." Blasphemy, right?
originally posted by: Bleeeeep
a reply to: dr1234
Unless you know everything about the systems being used to measure something, you cannot know, with certainty, that you have accurately measured something (that anything is a fact.)
Moreover, a statement such as, "I like chocolate ice cream over vanilla", may be both an opinion and a fact. It may be a fact that said person does like chocolate over vanilla.
Also, a statement such as, "Chocolate ice cream tastes better than vanilla", could also be proven to be a fact: If we could duplicate all three things in the measurement (the person, the vanilla ice cream, and the chocolate ice cream) and test them, it may show that chocolate is actually better tasting, and so the measurement / statement / opinion would become a fact.
So, yeah, go ahead and have faith that your precious facts are solidified because science knows everything about all systems, and let the pi variant guy think what he wants too. And let you both debate it. I mean, for all we really know, it might be possible that, like the mind forcing changes within its own system, within its body, the pi variant guy might be able to change pi, and becomes right. Is he not within the same system as pi? Who knows?
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What I'm trying to say is that just because you think something is true, it doesn't mean it is, or maybe it actually does - we just don't know yet, so don't be gettin' all mad and calling people uninformed ignoramus, when you don't know whats what either.
/counter-rant