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The Devil’s in the Details: Inside The Ukrainian Freedom Support Act

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posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 11:19 PM
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The Devil’s in the Details: Inside The Ukrainian Freedom Support Act



The latest anti-Russian bill to come out of Washington does a lot more than simply arm Ukraine, although that’s destabilizing enough as it is. Contained within the Act are powerful provisions that expand NATO’s influence in Russia’s backyard and continue the War on Syria.

The Ukrainian Freedom Support Act (UFSA) is essentially the actionable successor to the recently passed House Resolution 758, which itself has been referred to as the declaration of the New Cold War. It’s exceptionally noteworthy for fulfilling John McCain’s threat to arm Ukraine, but it’s the other decrees within it that have gone unnoticed by the mainstream media, although they’re just as troubling, if not more so. And unsurprisingly, Congress somehow found a way to group its War on Syria into the UFSA, showing that it truly exploits any opportunity to push through its agenda of regime change there even if it has absolutely nothing to do with the bill at hand.

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That`s nice, they use an Ukrainian resolution for their World hegemony plans...anyone who is still in the dark about what`s been going on needs only to read this resolution, it can`t get more official than this.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 11:25 PM
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But if Putin didn't ally himself with Assad none of this would be necessary.



Now while that was ever so slightly sarcastic, because soon enough this thread will reach the anti-Putin crowd...




I do have to wonder why Putin has allied himself with the scumbag Assad.
He loses a lot of his credibility on that one.



posted on Dec, 15 2014 @ 11:33 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

The other details about trying to curb Russia`s influence in Eurasia are also just as absurd.



posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 12:27 AM
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I wonder how long it will take before russian soldiers fight together with syrian soldiers in syria. Crazy times we live in and we all know its gonna get a whole lot crazier. Sometimes i feel like im living in a bad movie...



posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 12:27 AM
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I do not think we need another round of santions. The Ruble has dropped by 45% despite Russia spending billions trying to prop it up. Intrests rates have now been raised to 17%, the GDP is set to shring by 4.5%. Comsumer prices are up 8% from a year ago. Even bread prices are heading up 5 to 10%. So Russian are buying now things they thing will be impossible to afford by next year. Everything from TV to food staples. And things are just looking to get worse over the next year. The on thing that could save Russia right now is western capittal and investment which is not going to happen so long as Russia is messing about in Ukraine.

So Russia is in for some hard times and the political in fighting is going to get ugly. Unless Putin can find a way to settle Ukraine and make the West happy again while at the same time saving face at home then life Russia is headed down a dark road with no end in sight. More santions by the West is just beating a dead horse. I think Putin gets it, the West can shut Russia down anytime it wants.

How he can take that lesson and save Russia and his own reputation at the same time is going to require a lot of acts of kindness from the West and frankly Russia actions with Sweden and Finland along with NATO nations not to mention Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova have turned all of Russia western supporters away.



posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 01:11 AM
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going to require a lot of acts of kindness from the West
a reply to: MrSpad

LOL acts of kindness from the US? Are you kidding me? We have our war hawks in full battle gear and they want nothing but to take over the world. Think I'm joking? Take a look at this:

www.globalresearch.ca...


Here is just a few on that list,whether you agree with global research or not,we have been involved in most of these countries if anyone cares to look up the info for themselves.


North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *


We will not be happy until Russia is CRUSHED. They have oil and gas and we want in on that action. We will do anything it takes to get rid of Russia or any other country that stands in our way. They either play by our rules or they don't get to play. The greed is mind boggling. They have never forgiven Putin for cancelling contracts that was ripping off Russian oil and gas and they never will. The last time they had a strangle hold on Russia, people were living on the streets starving to death there. It will happen again. If they don't care about the people here,I promise you,they don't care about some backward dumb Russians. Global domination at all costs is the game.



posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 01:26 AM
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a reply to: Dimithae

If they wanted Russia crushed been done all ready instead of spending billions in us aid to Russia.
edit on 12/16/14 by dragonridr because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 01:34 AM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

2 things -

1 - Last I saw Obama stated they were reviewing the bill before deciding on what to do with it.

2 - It makes the resources available and authorizes the President to do what's needed within the confines of the legislation.

Like Russia's use of force bill with Ukraine it was passed on the off chance it was needed. It does not require Obama to act.

Its available if needed.



posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 01:57 AM
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The details of the Act... Ukrai ne Support Act

This just pulls together the actions of the US, so business as usual. Does Russia have transparent government that publishes what they are passing into law, including their annexation of Crimea. No? Thought not.

Regards



posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 02:39 AM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien




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ORIENTAL REVIEW is an independent Moscow-based Internet journal focusing on current political issues in Eurasia and beyond.


So a Moscow based journal. Enough said.



posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 02:59 AM
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a reply to: Dimithae




Here is just a few on that list,whether you agree with global research or not,we have been involved in most of these countries if anyone cares to look up the info for themselves.


And Russia has been a good little country...just ask there neighbors and Afghanistan.



We will do anything it takes to get rid of Russia or any other country that stands in our way.


Unlike RUssia who takes and annexes part of a sovereign country, because they had something the Russians didn't think they should pay for and nothing was going to stop them from taking it...so something like that?



The last time they had a strangle hold on Russia, people were living on the streets starving to death there.


Nothing better than blaming someone else for their problems...SO the US was the cause of all the problems the Russian people have seen from their own government?



It will happen again.


Yes it will because the government doesn't care about the people, it only cares about how much money Putin and his cronies can make. WHich is really sad to be honest.



If they don't care about the people here,I promise you,they don't care about some backward dumb Russians.


The Russian government really shouldn't look at it's citizens that way, but they do and that is sad. And you have no clue as to what the US thinks about the RUssian people, because they wouldn't send aid to Russia if they didn't care.

Oh and just so you know USAID does do work in RUssia, and helps those in need so maybe you should do some better research other than globalresearch to find out what America thinks about other countries.



Global domination at all costs is the game.


And yet we don't annex the countries we have been active in militarily, so your global domination remark is a fallacy.



posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 03:00 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr




If they wanted Russia crushed been done all ready instead of spending billions in us aid to Russia.


Something a few on here seem to forget.



posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 04:47 AM
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originally posted by: Dimithae



going to require a lot of acts of kindness from the West
a reply to: MrSpad

LOL acts of kindness from the US? Are you kidding me? We have our war hawks in full battle gear and they want nothing but to take over the world. Think I'm joking? Take a look at this:

www.globalresearch.ca...


Here is just a few on that list,whether you agree with global research or not,we have been involved in most of these countries if anyone cares to look up the info for themselves.


North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *


We will not be happy until Russia is CRUSHED. They have oil and gas and we want in on that action. We will do anything it takes to get rid of Russia or any other country that stands in our way. They either play by our rules or they don't get to play. The greed is mind boggling. They have never forgiven Putin for cancelling contracts that was ripping off Russian oil and gas and they never will. The last time they had a strangle hold on Russia, people were living on the streets starving to death there. It will happen again. If they don't care about the people here,I promise you,they don't care about some backward dumb Russians. Global domination at all costs is the game.


You could come up with a list just asl long, or even longer for the Russians. Or the Brits, Chinese, French or just about anybody else. You think Brazil is not trying to steat nations in its AO in its political direction.

The fact is after the USSR fell their two areas of thought. One to go ahead and finish them off for good. The second ro welcome them to West. The second school of thought won. Russia was given special access to all western organizations. Special council in NATO was set up just to make Russia feel good. Russia was let into the G7 even though with their economy they were completely unfit for it. NATO cut defense spending and so did the US. Russia was inlcuded in everything and even offered a spot in NATO. While Russia messed aournd in its former republics the West looked the other way. That is when global attention turned to China. Russia did not like being treated as just another European nation.

By the second invasion of Georgia the West began to notice that Russia was becoming a problem. And it was not until Ukraine that the West saw they had let things go way to far. However, the West just wants Russia to behave so it is has used only a tiny bit of its power and imposed some limited santions. The West could do far far worse if it really wanted to. Instead it has given Russia chance after chance to save face and walk away. Instead Russia decided to start messing with nuetral nations like Sweden and Finland on top of sending troops into Ukraine. These action are just going to bring more santions and more pain. They could make it far worse but, they would like Russia ro just away and not cause problems.

Everything that happens to Russia has been its own doing. The people who welcomed them to the community of nations have now been shamed by Russia actions.



posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 05:00 AM
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Seems to me that russia needs to flex its mussles and tell Kiev that it is coming to protect the people in the east Ukraine from the nazi thugs sent be kiev and if they want to fight about it then kiev will be taken too.

The strong message will soon have the US puppets plants inside the EU running for cover and telling the USA to keep its frigging nose out.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs



I do have to wonder why Putin has allied himself with the scumbag Assad.


Yes they are all scum bags if the USA wants to go bombing them but on the streets Assad has a lot of people who follow him else he would had been removed long ago.

In that part of the world you have to break a few eggs but the USA likes to break the frying pan

Come on mate they gave weapons to the FSA who turned into ISIS and i don't blame Russia for not buying any of this BS



posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 07:16 AM
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The war started awhile back and it seems that despite Washington's moves Putin is capable of making counter moves that has to be causing fits in the neo-con war room . " Whatever the case may be, Russia surprised Washington by upsetting the diplomatic chess board: Vladimir Putin visited Turkey, a NATO member state, just after US Vice-President Joe Biden, to conclude huge economic agreements. Not only do these bypass the Alliance’s unilateral sanctions, but they deeply disrupt them " www.informationclearinghouse.info...

"The criminal drifting of the Erdogan administration has become a major concern within NATO. All the more since Turkey is proving to become also a reluctant ally. Thus, it continues to help jihadists in their fight against the Kurdish people (though very predominantly Sunni) instead of actively joining the United States’ coalition against the Islamic Emirate. This is why Vice President Joe Biden visited Ankara on November 22nd , manifestly to threaten President Erdoğan if he did not march to US orders.

However, on December 1st, Putin also went to Ankara. Distinguishing between economic and political issues, he had a long prepared offer: an unprecedented economic alliance between the two nations. Understanding that this unexpected offer was his only way out in relation to Washington, President Erdoğan signed all the documents that had been written by the Russians. He accepted the strengthening of the submarine pipeline linking his country to Russia via the Black Sea; he bought Russian gas at a good price and even civilian nuclear power plants to power his industry; he delivered his agricultural products to Russia despite the embargo by all other Atlantic States; etc.

For NATO, the Turkish problem is turning into a nightmare."

Now It would not be hard to imagine that MSM and talking heads can spin this in many directions ,it speaks to the tactics and the influence of the region .It makes it very hard for most of us to get a clear picture but it does suggest that Turkey might be much more important to the west and is able to make deals with Russia that will end up undermining Washington/NATO's plan . a reply to: BornAgainAlien



posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: MrSpad



How he can take that lesson and save Russia and his own reputation at the same time is going to require a lot of acts of kindness from the West and frankly Russia actions with Sweden and Finland along with NATO nations not to mention Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova have turned all of Russia western supporters away.


The kindness of replaying the same scenario ?

It`s just history which they try to repeat...

1998 Russian financial crisis



Declining productivity, an artificially high fixed exchange rate between the ruble and foreign currencies to avoid public turmoil, and a chronic fiscal deficit were the reasons that led to the crisis. The economic cost of the first war in Chechnya, estimated at $5.5 billion (not including the rebuilding of the ruined Chechen economy), also contributed to the crisis. In the first half of 1997, the Russian economy showed some signs of improvement. However, soon after this, the problems began to gradually intensify.

Two external shocks, the Asian financial crisis that had begun in 1997 and the following declines in demand for (and thus price of) crude oil and nonferrous metals, severely impacted Russian foreign exchange reserves.

A political crisis came to a head in March when Russian president Boris Yeltsin suddenly dismissed Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin and his entire cabinet on 23 March 1998. Yeltsin named Energy Minister Sergei Kiriyenko, then 35 years old, as acting prime minister.

On 29 May 1998, Yeltsin appointed Boris Fyodorov as Head of the State Tax Service.

In an effort to prop up the currency and stem the flight of capital, in June 1998 Kiriyenko hiked GKO interest rates to 150%.

Additionally, on 15 July 1998, the State Duma dominated by left-wing parties refused to adopt most of the government anti-crisis plan so that the government was forced to rely on presidential decrees. On 29 July Yeltsin interrupted his vacation in Valdai Hills region and flew to Moscow, prompting fears of a Cabinet reshuffle, but he only replaced Federal Security Service Chief Nikolay Kovalyov with Vladimir Putin.


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posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 10:00 AM
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A nice recap about what those morons have been and are up to...

Oil War on Russia: Ridiculous People and Unintended Consequences



The once rather ordered world we knew even a decade ago is becoming more and more dis-ordered. That’s not to say it’s chaotic because chaos is merely the emergence of new patterns we do not yet understand. This is dis-order. And it is being fostered by ridiculous power-addicted people in the West who are flailing around to try to hold on to their eroding power over our world and over us. I say ridiculous because we need only look at the initiatives they have launched in recent months to advance their power agenda.


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posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: VirusGuard

I didn't blame Russia pal.

I said Putin is questionable for protecting a child murderer like Assad who has used Airstrikes & Barrel Bombed whole communities to stay in Power with a zealous Army to do his bidding.


Ironically, it's just like Kiev shelling their civilians to stay in power.


Which is why I feel Putin is questionable in this instance.



posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 10:57 AM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

You do know where those Syrian "reports" are coming from ?



Since America began its campaign to overthrow Assad/"destroy" ISIS in Syria over a year ago, one human rights group, "The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights", has been cited more frequently than any other. In 2012 and 2013 it served as the backbone of many reports on the human rights abuses of Assad, and in 2014, it has pivoted to do the same in regards to ISIS.


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posted on Dec, 16 2014 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Are you suggesting Assad is not killing his own citizens?




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