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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
We don't need the government making sure we don't suffer with "emotional impacts" in our lives.
If blacks were forced into abortion clinics and forced to have abortions, then that would be black genocide. That emotionally-charged phrase is mostly uttered by people who want abortion to be illegal. It's simply not true.
That's irrelevant.
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
a reply to: xuenchen
Here's a read for you. Unfortunatley, it is non-partisan.
Freakonomics
originally posted by: FlyersFan
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
We don't need the government making sure we don't suffer with "emotional impacts" in our lives.
I never even remotely came close to saying that. I simply stated that, although he told the truth that it's economically beneficial for society, it's also emotionally a negative for many.
As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Logarock
All to save one more child? You do know that even with abortion being legal, that infant mortality rates are at an all time low. That means that before the modern age, more infants were dying than they are today. Meaning that even with abortion, more babies are living than ever before. So if society crashes and burns, expect the infant mortality rate to go back up. This means more babies end up dying overall. It helps to consider the cause and effect of your statements before saying them, though I understand the appeal of letting your emotions dictate your decisions. It's easier that way, less thinking involved.
originally posted by: windword
a reply to: Logarock
A generation of psychopaths.
LOL! You act as if abortion is new phenomena! It's been practiced since time immemorial and it has almost always been about economics.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Logarock
To this I say the same thing I just said to FlyersFan:
Emotional appeals are how bad laws are created. They are backed up with non-science and feel good rhetoric then when the laws are implemented, all it does is create hardship and problems. See: Probibition, gambling, prostitution, War on drugs, firearms, etc.
Give me ONE case where making an emotional appeal worked out for the better for society and maybe I will entertain such opinions, but I currently cannot think of any.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
I never even remotely came close to saying that.
It's true.
When discussing abortion, Margaret Sanger is NOT irrelevant.
Pro abortion people may want it to be, but it's not.
The targeting of black Americans for abortion and the fact that this fits into Margaret Sangers eugenics plan is something important to remember.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Emotional appeals are how bad laws are created.
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Just because more black people have abortions, that doesn't mean that there's some sort of organized systematic destruction of the race at work.
Her racist views are irrelevant to abortion today.
Planned Parenthood is FAR removed from her and does not practice eugenics or genocide.
"Pro-abortion"??? You would stoop so low?