What Is The End Game, Mr Cameron?

Since 1979 I have been observing what I would call the devolution of the state in the UK.

Private corporations have slowly been taking over responsibilities and institutions from the government. The obvious result of this is that what once belonged to us all democratically is now in the hands of a few profiteers with no accountability to the electorate.

Yesterday we were informed that the Conservative plans, if they win a governing majority at the next election, are to make "colossal" cuts in services. Many people are commenting that this will completely redefine the role of state.

I know that there is an end game. I see it with my own eyes that we are being changed as a state very slowly. It is not on a cause and effect basis, but moving ever forward to a blue print design that we are not being told about.

I'm not a socialist, but I have very serious concerns about where this is going. We already have the European Commission handling the EU budget and none of them are democratically elected. We have non democratic corporations increasingly handling even our most sensitive services and social provisions.

Household bills now do not only have to pay for the cost of the services, maintenance and ongoing development, but feeding an ever more demanding shareholder who wants his always better prospect slice. He is unchecked by the voters and now even unchecked by any national government. He can manoeuvre through the whole world of business, always on the hunt for profiteering where labour costs are cheapest and obstacles of rights are least.

I worry about politics and business more than anything. It is here we find the most dangerous impositions on our lives. It always seems to be moving in the opposite direction to society, care and compassion. We are all losing out to this rampaging corporate despot of democracy. I honestly believe they are in a clandestine sense destroying democracy right under our noses. What will replace it I don't know, but I feel very powerless already.

a reply to: lonesomerimbaud
I find these posts a bit naïve.
Do you still think that the government is actually interested in the good of others?
You should probably read Orwell's 1984 all over again to see it for yourself.

just a short excerpt
"The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were- cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?"

Essentially, you HAVE TO realise that politics is a masquerade, a grotesque, a circus, a carnival... it's all merely an illusion. It's always been an illusion. It does not work, there is no democracy, there is no free choice, there are no good intentions.
It's a matrix from the very beginning to the very end. The alpha and omega of this has been to fool you and it seems like they did succeed.

Private corporations have slowly been taking over responsibilities and institutions from the government. The obvious result of this is that what once belonged to us all democratically is now in the hands of a few profiteers with no accountability to the electorate.

Same here in the states… everywhere? is that the NWO?

State controlled Capltalism .. is Fascism.

a reply to: Necrose
Probably worth pointing out that 1984 is a work of fiction. The reality is that in the western world we have more freedom and rights than at any point in history.
However that is not to say we are not manipulated (more brave new world than 1984). Never mind the NHS is being privatised here is some trivial # about celebrities in a jungle to watch.

I can tell you exactly what is going on , but you wouldn't believe me so maybe you might listen to Sir Patric moore instead

a reply to: ScepticScot
As far as the connection between Huxley and Orwell goes, and the fact that they were both in the Fabian society. Then we have Orwell's connection to BBC and Huxley's brother is Julian Huxley, who was English evolutionary biologist, eugenicist, and internationalist. He was a proponent of natural selection, and a leading figure in the mid-twentieth century evolutionary synthesis.
I suggest it's more than mere fiction. Actually, it's far more than that.


Freedom? Do you feel free? ... I don't.
Other guys here, please answer... DO YOU FEEL FREE?

Do you know, why they started with free range farming?
Because free range livestock is more productive.

..."it works better if they don't know they are slaves"
Because the slave is most productive when he thinks he is free.

a reply to: Necrose

Haha!

I'm not being naïve. I just wrote it as a polite observation (politician and politics come from the word "polite").

I am trying to communicate in a way that everybody can understand and so I am not just cast aside as being a conspiracy nut.

I agree with some of what you say, but not all.

Here in the UK I know that we had one system and now we are having to change to another. I see a kind of Marxism at work in the work place and this International corporate power system wielding more power and influence than any single governments.

I do believe that we have to have some sort of management system for power and finance. We always have had to do that from the chief of the tribe to kings to dictators to democracies.

I just see something happening for the worse. For those of us who are the £6 an hour fodder there is not much joy to this life. They take nearly everything we have each month in bills. The social perks, access to law, health provision for us are getting worse not better. We are being downgraded.

You are right to be so cynical. I feel that, too.

a reply to: Necrose

I don't feel free.

I feel miserable, powerless, trapped, cornered, watching my human rights being swiped away so I am even more powerless.

It is disgusting and plain wrong. It is a great time to be alive if you are a billionaire. It is crap if you are the minimum wage fodder for these guys.

a reply to: lonesomerimbaud
I've spent some time in London, I know how things in the UK work...
Hm, but... I don't think it's better anywhere within the continental EU anyway. It's not supposed to be better or get better anywhere you know. This is the way they want it to be. You ARE supposed to be fu*ked up. Everyone IS supposed to feel that way. It's within their agenda, it's their plan.
These are all the steps required for the global government. It's all a part of the Plan.


Option A:
ALL OF US go to the streets and we march on the parliament. But as the brainwashing is reaching its final stages, that's gonna be a difficult thing to do. ...and we don't have much time to do it anyways.
Option B:
We do nothing, we suck it up and end up really bad.
(I am not quite sure whether the Option B is already in effect or not)
I've stated (quite some time ago) that we are ALREADY living in post-1984 era and that it's too late.

The system is not broken my friend, it was built this way. Remember that.

originally posted by: lonesomerimbaud
a reply to: Necrose

I don't feel free.

I feel miserable, powerless, trapped, cornered, watching my human rights being swiped away so I am even more powerless.

It is disgusting and plain wrong. It is a great time to be alive if you are a billionaire. It is crap if you are the minimum wage fodder for these guys.

exactly! I wouldn't have said it better myself.

a reply to: lonesomerimbaud

The super rich have to put their money into something secure otherwise they would be compromised. Property can always been taken over by local rent officers so you can't guarantee that some 'red in the bed' won't re-enact the role of the rent officer to keep rents to a fair proportion of take home pay.

The middle class is being eroded which is the class that challenges the role of the super rich and education brain washes certain principles into our young who accept stuff. I watched the other night when both young and middle aged were telling the interviewer - "We can't afford not to have cuts" Oh yes you can because you have already paid in your tax bill for these services and your tax is being spent on serving debt that menh like gordon brown stuffed up or put into place because he's more a bankers man whom also took away the regulation on the banks.

Our politicians get into parliament by the money put into their election funds. Its where this money comes from and what it dictates that makes our policies - not individuals with a genuine urge to serve the public. Until we get rid of the power of the lobbyist who is pulling politicians chains because of the money they accepted in order to get elected we will continue to have corrupt politics.

If you look at cameron - he is the epitome of the wealthy man - couisin the queen, whose run by rothschild - how the hell that happened we brits can only guess - but who elected these money lenders such as rothschild to dictate our policies down through a thick and leisure loving royalty that has no link to the british people - despite pretty photos of the royal baby that is being pushed down everyones throat. (which shows they know their popularity is ticking away so short shots of PR are required which the gullible will suck up), forgetting that they have beautiful babies themselves that need a chance in the future which the toyal baby will simply take for granted as his.

We must stop corporations dictating to our politicians and get britain back into a financially stable country that doesn't waste is tax payers mopney on wars that have to do more with resources for the corporations than any other reason. Who cared about Afganistan before obama bin laden we are told took up residence in a cave there (Yeh Right). We already know the money lenders link to the Twin Towers that were wrecked by their own owners who must have allowed the necessary construction work to collapse those towers down to have been carried out. Too many professionals smelt explosives so we know it was a fix to frighten and take power away from the communities the politicians stole the tax revenues from.

Cameron and his snotty circle which includes boris have no linkage to ordinary people not care about them, only their status and wealth plus keeping their few friends. This network of buddies is doing more damage than any other group of people have done to this planet and its masses.

I think you share the worries a lot of us have. I am living in hope that perhaps Nigel and his UKIP party will nip in the bud this zionist takeover of the world and get rid of these cumbersome politicians and their spoilt loyalties. Politicians and groupslike royalty like to be seen to do their little charity bit, but when you consider how much tax they still evade by keeping open certain tax havens plus of course celebrities like Bono and Geldorf who pay no tax here but live here happily and use all the country's facilities, the bits they give to charity are no reflection of their real wealth and lets face it, if you crave public accolade you need your face in the press for something - charity is a good one especially if its done abroad where resources are plentiful.

I do believe that more people are getting fed up with the corruption, no bankers jailed - yet little iceland managed it - but big britain couldn't you know their time is coming to an end because we are looking a ever bigger groups of dissatisfied voters getting seriously mad. Amongst some of them are the police also who see exactly what is going on and know they also want a better world and the real criminals are laughing in their faces.


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a reply to: Necrose

I'd love to say you are wrong, but I can't.

The horrible thing is that I don't see how they can be beaten.

Please shout away. You are doing everyone a favour. It is just very sad that it is coming to this. I wish at least they had played a fairer game with us, but...

a reply to: lonesomerimbaud
The thing is, they can't be beaten.
... and if they can, that's going to be a very violent and nasty way.

a reply to: Shiloh7

I wish I could share your enthusiasm about UKIP.

If they ever were to achieve any real power they would be sabotaged, either through bribery, blackmail or at the worst they would sink the British economy for a while until the voters come round to their way of thinking.

I'm no politician, just another guy watching as they make living so much harder for us. We are very exploited. I am not just moaning. I really see this happening and it has a very bad psychological effect. What these people put upon us has very bad consequences for our health and well being. Surely it could be fairer than this?

a reply to: Necrose
I don't completely disagree. There is undoubtedly a link between productivity and perception of freedom. What I take issue with is the idea that there was ever a golden age of personal freedom (if there is a golden age it is now). There is a very plausible argument that we gave more freedoms now as it makes more productive and easier to control. However I think that is only one part of the story.
Can I ask what conclusions you draw from the information in your first paragraph I am not sure I follow. Mean that in a genuine way not an ATS style think you are talking **** way.

a reply to: lonesomerimbaud

Try doing what I have done.
I don't give a shi* about their bloody politics anymore. I don't watch their bloody news and I don't care who is elected.
Buy a ticket to Mexico or Dominican Republic for 7 days, go there, enjoy the sunshine, go sun-tanning, swimming, sip some tequilas, have some beer, enjoy the wind dwindling at the beach at night. Listen to the ocean.
Just stop thinking about the money and greed. Stop thinking about them for a while. Focus solely on yourself. Don't count the money. You want a smoked salmon? Order a smoked salmon. You want a champagne? Order a champagne ... & take that bottle to the beach and lay down, play with the sand. Enjoy the evening, either with your spouse or alone.

Then after a week, you come back home with a whole different perspective. Don't turn the TV on just yet . Don't click on bbc.co.uk bookmark in your Safari. Just continue enjoying the little vibe you got left from the caribbean.

I did this last spring. It helped a bit

a reply to: Necrose

Thank you. That is good advice.

...goes whistling off to get passport application at post office!

a reply to: ScepticScot

you mean the paragraph about the connection between Huxley and Orwell?

I was trying to say that as far as they had the information about the Agenda back then (they got the information about world agendas from the Fabian society it is said), they could easily write those novels with mesmerising accuracy.

a reply to: lonesomerimbaud

I don't know where I dropped the -ING suffix in my last post, but I've already corrected those errors. Probably the auto-correction error.
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send us greetings with a picture of you enjoying the sunshine (please don't wear pink swimming shorts)

a reply to: Necrose
Not sure how membership of Fabian society gives you information about any agenda other than the Fabian societies.
Interesting that they both wrote very different visions of the worlds future. While 1984 was the better novel(in my opinion) it is now Brave New World that personally I find the more chilling. You don't need jackboots to the face when you can control what people want.