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originally posted by: anonentity
originally posted by: tovenar
a reply to: anonentity
I used This wikipedia page for milk consumption by nation; I used this webpage for national breast cancer rates by nation.
I'm calling out your claims right now. It's bunk.
Only 2 states hit the top 10 in both lists: Denmark and Montenegro.
But others, Like Lebanon; number 5 for breast cancer, number .... 81 for milk consumption.
Egypt is number 26 for breast cancer; it doesn't even top the first 100 for milk consumption.
Basically, the genetic pools with high rates of breast cancer include south America, West Europe, and a smattering across africa. THAT is a far better explanation of cancer than milk consumption. Nice try though.
My own nation, (USA) is the number 16 milk guzzler, but comes in # 61 in breast cancer.
I f you look at the U.S.A and include Minnesota and Wisconsin, the highest milk consumers in the States, I think its Minnesota that doesn't include its breast cancer rate into the National . But these States are basically populated by western Europeans. and have very high rates. So when looking at the map areas where their is high lactose intolerance, like China. The incidence of Breast Prostate and heart disease is insignificant. But Denmark Belgium U.K. have staggering high rates. One in eight males will get Prostate the same goes for females with regard to breast cancers. These are not the main cause of death, its heart disease, and strokes, Even the medical profession agree that the main cause of this is caused by the high Triglycerides from dairy produce.
originally posted by: anonentity
I f you look at the U.S.A and include Minnesota and Wisconsin, the highest milk consumers in the States, I think its Minnesota that doesn't include its breast cancer rate into the National . But these States are basically populated by western Europeans. and have very high rates. So when looking at the map areas where their is high lactose intolerance, like China. The incidence of Breast Prostate and heart disease is insignificant. But Denmark Belgium U.K. have staggering high rates. One in eight males will get Prostate the same goes for females with regard to breast cancers. These are not the main cause of death, its heart disease, and strokes, Even the medical profession agree that the main cause of this is caused by the high Triglycerides from dairy produce.
originally posted by: rickymouse
From my studies on milk I would have to say it is not good for most people to consume it on a regular basis. It is a great medicine, taken when needed or craved. I was BSed to believe milk was good for people and that those who can't drink it are defective. I was led to believe a lie. I no longer feel that my allergy and intolerance is a fault, I think a real lot of people have been led to believe that milk is good for you when in fact it has so many bad points that most people should not consume it. Real milk from properly raised cows is a lot better tolerated, but for half the world's population it is actually not good. We shouldn't be led to believe that the people who can tolerate it are superior, they aren't. They have a mutation that allows them to drink milk and this mutation has bad points.
Milk is not supposed to be a beverage, it is a food. This food does cause more problems than it does good half the time.
originally posted by: tovenar
originally posted by: anonentity
I f you look at the U.S.A and include Minnesota and Wisconsin, the highest milk consumers in the States, I think its Minnesota that doesn't include its breast cancer rate into the National . But these States are basically populated by western Europeans. and have very high rates. So when looking at the map areas where their is high lactose intolerance, like China. The incidence of Breast Prostate and heart disease is insignificant. But Denmark Belgium U.K. have staggering high rates. One in eight males will get Prostate the same goes for females with regard to breast cancers. These are not the main cause of death, its heart disease, and strokes, Even the medical profession agree that the main cause of this is caused by the high Triglycerides from dairy produce.
How to explain the high rate of Breast cancer in Egypt and Nigeria, both of which have higher rates than the US, but have no milk consumption?
America drinks more milk than UK, but has far, far lower incidence of cancer. What's up with that?
originally posted by: MiddleClassWhiteBoy
a reply to: anonentity
LOL I love how you cite medical research/studies in your post!!!!!!!!!!!! Where are your statistics to support your absurd unscientific conclusions???????????
There is nothing wrong with dairy or dairy products per se. In fact dairy from animals raised and fed correctly is probably one of the top 5 foods any human being can consume. Right along with red meat from pastured animals. Raw dairy products do not cause lactose intolerance among 99.9% of the population compared to their pasteurized counterpart. Pasteurization takes a wholesome, natural food and completely destroys and alters everything good and nutritious about it. Raw milk is an amazing food with curative properties. But again the animals have to be raised right and fed right. That's the problem and therein lies the fault with these stupid arguments and extremes "i.e. red meat causes cancer, or dairy will kill you". Yes the hormones are a problem. But again domesticated bovines were never meant to be pumped full of 21st century chemicals and drugs.
I could go on and on about the benefits of raw milk. One of the best sources of glutathione. A whole host of natural occurring digestive enzymes and probiotics. Now if you want to argue pasteurization of dairy products is killing us you might have a solid point, one that I would agree with. But to label "dairy" in general as unhealthy and causing cancer is just STOOPID! Humans have been eating dairy products i.e. cheese, kefir, milk, for thousands of years. Goat's milk for example has amazing healing properties.
originally posted by: grumpy64
a reply to: anonentity
Dude, people are getting fatter on sugar. There is more and more of this being put into our food and drink than ever before I swear. I am finding it difficult to even drink soft drink now as it far too sweet and i feel like being sick. Sugar also contains pesticides from the cropping process so that can't be too good either. Those milk shakes you speak of are full of sugar and the buns on those hamburgers are also full of sugar. Don't be surprised if those burgers contain the dreaded soy instead of beef.
originally posted by: grumpy64
a reply to: anonentity
Dude, people are getting fatter on sugar. There is more and more of this being put into our food and drink than ever before I swear. I am finding it difficult to even drink soft drink now as it far too sweet and i feel like being sick. Sugar also contains pesticides from the cropping process so that can't be too good either. Those milk shakes you speak of are full of sugar and the buns on those hamburgers are also full of sugar. Don't be surprised if those burgers contain the dreaded soy instead of beef.