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originally posted by: Rezlooper
a reply to: butcherguy
Lol, well, I guess no fried chicken today. KFC and Popeye's stock will be down a little bit today, oh well.
originally posted by: daaskapital
If it's two things i don't understand about Americans, it is their hate for Socialism and their hate for Obama.
Socialist policies aren't all that bad when you look at countries like Australia and Canada. The USA could benefit from similar services. And Obama, from an outsider's perspective, has seemed to do an alright job during his time in office. Sure, the people spoke their minds about him and his party during the election, but i honestly don't think Obama has done any worse than Bush. Certainly, Obama has been the best candidate out of the last two presidential elections. I shudder to think what McCain or Romney would have done had they gained power. I guess time will tell when the next election comes around though.
By the way, i mean no offence to any American readers. I am just raising curious observations.
originally posted by: JohnPhoenix
originally posted by: Rezlooper
a reply to: butcherguy
Lol, well, I guess no fried chicken today. KFC and Popeye's stock will be down a little bit today, oh well.
OMG - Why would you put KFC in the same category as Popeyes?
KFC is NOT edible for Human Consumption. it doesn't even have a hint of real fried chicken taste.
But then, I'm from New Orleans where the Real Al Copelands, first Popyes started. I have eaten Popeyes in many states, and I tell you, the recipe is different from all other states. In new Orleans they use real Southern Cajun spices in the chicken that they do Not use in other states. You wouldn't really know real Popeys fried chicken unless you ate Popeyes in New Orleans. i found this out the hard way when i started traveling and was shocked to see the popeye's i was used to wasn't the same in other states.
Still KFC is Garbage compared to even bad out of state Popeyes chicken.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: daaskapital
If it's two things i don't understand about Americans, it is their hate for Socialism and their hate for Obama.
Socialist policies aren't all that bad when you look at countries like Australia and Canada. The USA could benefit from similar services. And Obama, from an outsider's perspective, has seemed to do an alright job during his time in office. Sure, the people spoke their minds about him and his party during the election, but i honestly don't think Obama has done any worse than Bush. Certainly, Obama has been the best candidate out of the last two presidential elections. I shudder to think what McCain or Romney would have done had they gained power. I guess time will tell when the next election comes around though.
By the way, i mean no offence to any American readers. I am just raising curious observations.
Except what Obama has proposed isn't really socialism. On the political compass Obama is further to the right than Reagan, and that's what is painted as far left in this country. That's what's portrayed though because we only have two parties and in order to make distinguishing brands they have to look as if they're polar opposites.
originally posted by: Xeven
originally posted by: Rezlooper
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Yea... No... Obama isn't going to be able to do anything more than he has done already. All of his executive mandates haven't been as disastrous as claimed. This is probably going to be the freshest two years this nation has had in a long time as the government remains at a gridlock, doing next to nothing.
Amnesty for 11 million illegals will be disastrous for America!
They are already here. They are already working. They are already using US resources and even if no amnesty they will remain here doing exactly what they are doing now through your entire lifetime. No politician is going to load buses up and ship them home. It just wont happen.
Amnesty on the other hand opens the door for identification, taxation, Pay into social security and making them responsible for their actions like any other law abiding citizen.
Unless your a Native American Indian then you too are a descendent of border crossers. You have no right to deny America to anyone. If anyone has that right it would be the Native American Population. You are an illegal alien to Americas rightful inhabitants the Native Americans. Your ancestors stole these lands and nearly committed genocide on its native population.
What gives you a right to deny American soil to anyone?
originally posted by: Xeven
originally posted by: Rezlooper
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Yea... No... Obama isn't going to be able to do anything more than he has done already. All of his executive mandates haven't been as disastrous as claimed. This is probably going to be the freshest two years this nation has had in a long time as the government remains at a gridlock, doing next to nothing.
Amnesty for 11 million illegals will be disastrous for America!
They are already here. They are already working. They are already using US resources and even if no amnesty they will remain here doing exactly what they are doing now through your entire lifetime. No politician is going to load buses up and ship them home. It just wont happen.
Amnesty on the other hand opens the door for identification, taxation, Pay into social security and making them responsible for their actions like any other law abiding citizen.
Unless your a Native American Indian then you too are a descendent of border crossers. You have no right to deny America to anyone. If anyone has that right it would be the Native American Population. You are an illegal alien to Americas rightful inhabitants the Native Americans. Your ancestors stole these lands and nearly committed genocide on its native population.
What gives you a right to deny American soil to anyone?
originally posted by: Gryphon66
Presidential Executive Orders are not illegal.
Boehner has already had two law firms drop the House's frivolous lawsuit.
Yet, he continues to waste the People's money.
I have great hope that the Republicans will surge forward with Impeachment.
Obama's popularity will SKYROCKET!
And the public will see just how much the Republicans love government and hate fiscal responsibility.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
Executive Orders have ALWAYS been a part of the American way of Government.
ALWAYS, George Washington issued 8 himself.
Ronald Reagan has had the most of any modern President (including Obama) at 381 total.
Read a history book ferkristsake.
I for one sincerely hope that the Republicans continue to ignore immigration reform, campaign finance reform, keep funnelling the People's money to their buddies on Wall Street and the Military-Industrial Complex, and give us 24/7 Coverage on Impeachment/Benghazi ... then in 2016, the Democrats CAN actually run Mickey Mouse and win by a landslide, and Obama will be remembered as the greatest President of the 21st century, and the Republicans can finally go the way of the Whigs and the Bull Moose Party.
originally posted by: Sunwolf
Those eleven million granted amnesty will just bring millions more and more.No country in the Western hemisphere allows illegal alien immigration or amnesty.This country should not bend to the pressure of illegal aliens and deny them amnesty and enforce the laws.
This granting of amnesty is neverending,it must stop now.
FDR deported illegal aliens back in the 30`s,Eisenhower did the same back in the 50`s,it worked then and it will work now.
originally posted by: Asktheanimals
"LOOKOUT! HE'S GOT A PEN!
- and he's not afraid to use it.
This should bring us to the crux of the issue about so-called "executive orders", something not provided for in the Constitution and never really challenged in court to my knowledge.
On October 17, 2013, President Obama said: “You don’t like a particular policy or a particular president? Then argue for your position. Go out there and win an election.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
Presidential Executive Orders are not illegal.
originally posted by: BrianFlanders
originally posted by: Gryphon66
Presidential Executive Orders are not illegal.
Maybe not but the president is not supposed to be a king. They might not be illegal but they ARE shady. Especially when the president is blatantly using them to bypass the will of the electorate.
originally posted by: hellobruce
originally posted by: Asktheanimals
"LOOKOUT! HE'S GOT A PEN!
- and he's not afraid to use it.
This should bring us to the crux of the issue about so-called "executive orders", something not provided for in the Constitution and never really challenged in court to my knowledge.
Funny how Obama has signed fewer Executive Orders than most presidents:- out of the last 20 Presidents only 2 have signed fewer than Obama....
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: Sunwolf
Those eleven million granted amnesty will just bring millions more and more.No country in the Western hemisphere allows illegal alien immigration or amnesty.This country should not bend to the pressure of illegal aliens and deny them amnesty and enforce the laws.
This granting of amnesty is neverending,it must stop now.
FDR deported illegal aliens back in the 30`s,Eisenhower did the same back in the 50`s,it worked then and it will work now.
We have no way to find them, and we don't have the infrastructure to deport them. For better or worse they are here. We can't throw (most of) them in prison, we can't continue the status quo of them working for subminimum wages as it creates a black market on labor and brings down everyones earnings, we can't have them out of the education and health systems because that means they never become more productive... a permanent underclass.
The only option is amnesty, just like what Reagan did. The only difference is that before we give amnesty this time we actually secure the boarder as well as pass legislation that funds it for atleast the next 35 years. Once that happens, we give amnesty and make these people legal citizens so that they're no longer an underclass. Criminals or not, it is not in a nations interest to have a slave class.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: BrianFlanders
originally posted by: Gryphon66
Presidential Executive Orders are not illegal.
Maybe not but the president is not supposed to be a king. They might not be illegal but they ARE shady. Especially when the president is blatantly using them to bypass the will of the electorate.
Then blame Congress. Are you aware of what an Executive Order is? It allows a president to clarify a law. Better, more descriptive legislation (such as what you would expect from a bill that's 1000 pages long) has less room for clarification if written properly.